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Meeting 20170320

  • Andrew Hughes
  • George Dobbs
  • Janelle Allen
  • Stu Lincoln
  • Kaliya Young
  • Thorsten Niebuhr

We worked on the doc (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNLZginMaRtFdraQTpVkdJ6z8Aj86cM_87TE6T53KrI/edit#heading=h.rt9d9cnrprd7)

  • Discussed the 'dart' (cake, pie) model and the status of the rings (information/technology/policy)
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    • There is currently no real usage in the work for the rings, but we will keep them for now
    • Naming the elements: layer/Section/Slices
  • 'Identities' as an example for a intro text
  • Same to do for
  • We discussed if the current model is to 'Enterprise IAM' focused, and if it lacks the more modern views (sovreign Identity, Consumer, Patients...)
    • We might need to add 'some layer', but hope (and most are somewhat positive on this) that the model will allow this to be included/ covered
  • Once again discussions where the border/ difference between the taxonomy and the details of the BoK are
    • The taxonomy should allow us to sort the 'specific' into the 'general'.
    • Not using terms from (ISO xyz or standard abc) on the taxonomy naming/ explanation for a given section is a feature of it. Eg the Section 'Identities' describes a general idea of 'identity', the BoK content then should mention/ link the different explanations (eg ISO Standard abc, Philosophy, ....)
  • Discussion if we should prepare a session / be part of the workshops held at EIC 2017 (Munich) (->https://www.kuppingercole.com/events/eic2017/workshops)
    • Thorsten will send out that as a question to the group
      (while writing this, Colin has already contacted me on this. good timing....)
  • Next meeting /editing session
    Thursday, March 23, 2017; 7:00pm to 8:00pm Eastern Daylight Time

Meeting 20170206

  • Andrew H.
  • Thorsten N.
  • Megan C.
  • Stu L.
  • Cathrine S.

We worked on the googledoc and made significant progress. minor changes on the taxonomy again

  • Stu L. to work on 'High Level Concepts' Section
  • Stu L. to continue on 'Management'
  • Thorsten N. to continue Matrix representation
  • Thorsten N. to work on 'Identities'
  • Cathrine to add HC specfics to 'Additional BoK Items', starting a 'vertical industry section specific' area
  • ALL: contribute to the doc to make sure we have some 'ready to be discussed / open for comments' status by 2017-02-13 EOB, send short notice to Andrew when a section is completed
  • Andrew H. to QA the doc on 2017-02-03 and generate a link to it allowing open comments
  • Andrew added another model to have a cake and eat it.
  • Resorted/ Changed (standards together with protocols)
    • Concepts
    • Regulations
    • Best Practices
    • Standards and Protocols

2017-02-13 will be no call, next one is 2017-02-20

Meeting 20170130

  • Andrew H.
  • Thorsten N.

Andrew created and started googledoc and send out link (the doc is anonymous editable, thats why the link is not mentioned here)

Agreement on taxonomy

  • Identities

    • Standards and Concepts

    • Regulations

    • Best-Practice

    • Protocols

  • Management

    • Standards and Concepts

    • Regulations

    • Best-Practice

    • Protocols

  • Authentication

    • Standards and Concepts

    • Regulations

    • Best-Practice

    • Protocols

  • Authorization

    • Standards and Concepts

    • Regulations

    • Best-Practice

    • Protocols

Meeting 20170123

  • Thorsten Niebuhr
  • Andrew Hughes
  • Megan Cannon
  • Colin Wallis
  • George Dobbs

Topics

  • Andrew send out his view on 'Authentication' via Mail just before the meeting
    • great list
    • Trust elevation missing
  • Thorsten to share an 'alternative' Modell / View (Andrews Authentication stuff not in yet)
    • IDPRo-Alternative-View.pdf
    • An alternative view might help, but we should concentrate on working on what we have now.
    • slices concept is hard to explain using the alternative
    • Table is just a 'quick and dirty' draft
  • Discussing techniques for increasing stakeholder engagement
  • https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/ as a valuable doc, worth reading for the group

 

 

 

Meeting 20170109

  • Andrew Hughes
  • Megan Cannon

Andrew played around with running ISO 29146 and ISO 24760-3 through a word cloud generator (to avoid sitting down and just drafting the domains list!)

29146 access management.png

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24760 framework for idm.png

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Meeting 20161219

  • Andrew Hughes
  • Thorsten Niebuhr
  • George Dobbs
  • Stu Lincoln

 

We discussed the taxonomy sub-levels of 'identification' and came up with:
Identification (Initial)
  • Identities
  • digital|social|online|philosophical identities, entities: Describe identities and its many facets, PII,...
  • Gathering/ Providing
  • how these informations are collected and aggregated
  • claims, attributes, relations, self-provided, stolen,....
  • ethics
  • Verification
  • verified and non-verified data and its use
  • Trust Levels
  • Uniqueness in a population
  • Information Recording (other wording: DataStorage, RecordCreation, .....)
    • Security
    • Protection
    • Privacy
    • Retention
    • Lifetime
Still to be bashed around, of course, but we settled on thinking about this segment as practices related to 'Initial Identification'. 

Stu Lincoln will take on the 'Management' segment over the next couple weeks
Andrew Hughes will take on 'Authentication' and 'Authorization' - but would be very happy to hand off one or both to YOU who are reading this right now :)

We discussed the point of doing a 'dart board' or 'layer' approach - essentially that this layer could/should be added or recognized in any ICT / IT / IM / ITSM management framework or architectural framework that exists for you and your clients. We probably all feel that 'identity' is not addressed fully & this is a way to add the relevant topics at the right time for your circumstances.

So - onwards!
Next meeting will be 2017-01-09

 

Meeting 20161212

  • Thorsten Niebuhr
  • Andrew Hughes
  • Megan Cannon

Agenda/ Topics discussed

  • Short discussion about past weeks and last week overall DG Meeting
  • Next Step discussion
    • Task (TN) Create Mailthread on the TopLayers and their Sublayers

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  • Cathrine Schulten
  • Thorsten Niebuhr
  • Colin Wallis
  • Ravi ?
  • Megan Canon

Agenda/Topics Discussed

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