Information Sharing GROUP Teleconference
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Date and Time
- Date: 24 May 2010
- Time: 6am HST | 9 PDT | 12 EDT | 5pm UK
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Attendees
- Joe Andrieu
- Trent Adams
- Iain Henderson
- Mark Lizar
- Mike Kirkwood
- Eve Maler
- Juan Avalon (non-voting)
- Judi Clark (non-voting)
Apologies
Agenda
- Attendance
- Prior Action Item Review
- IIW Review
- New Business
- Trust Framework
- Other business?
- Action Item Review
Minutes
1. Attendance
We noted that 6 people on the call were voting members and that the group did not meet quorum on this call.
2. Prior Action Item Review
Iain will follow up with non-attending members - to do
Iain will draft exec summary in literature review - will present session on IIW - done, report continuing
Iain will think about IP for standard agreement (pending discussion or letter with Joni), and will hand off core IP from his previous work to this group - to do
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Juan will send a few thoughts as draft on legal concerns, international level. (done)
3. IIW Review
Iain reported it was a busy event. MyDex message is going down very well, at least 5-6 other PDS vendors at IIW. Lots to follow up with.
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Joe: we spoke in previous UMA conversation about whether Alice to Bob is bilateral or multi-party, common carrier role (legal) such that they aren't party to specific A-B contract, but intermediary parties are included as facilitators of data. Eve: get a claim from requestor and are certified/trust framework, community-specific safe harbor. Joe: metaphor: click to accept scales (machine), intermediaries claims (acting as common carrier) Juan: essentially creating closed community with it, "rule book" as in other communities, have to abide by min set of rules, issue is scalability to address party subscriptions (each co has legal department). Enforceability & how it plays w local law: may be an issue, data protection laws may override, if accepted by machine is that machine an acceptable instance of assent. Will be a closed community. Eve; that front-loads the process. Joe: we could make it as open as possible but still requires agreement to rule book. Mark: master controller, opposite of TOS, more like voluntary sharing agreement, individual sets preferences, general framework. Eve: if standards are well known, not dynamic, will have companies signing on (can ratchet up higher). Joe: Trust framework can be emergent. Eve: example of licensing agreement (CC, iStockPhoto); boilerplating agreements is valuable. Joe: boilerplating vs reviewing each new contract, cost of evaluating variance, is burden. Juan: block vs subtle agreements
4a. New Business: Trust Framework
Iain: intention to develop standard info sharing agreements, based on volunteered personal info (primarily). About 2 weeks ago, UK gov offered call for innovation, they've put aside ~1M pounds for innovation in this area. Iain suggests we could use that work as contribution to call for innovation (needs to be done by consortia: MyDex, Kantara, other) to explore whole trust framework. Judi: suggest you start with both voluntary and non-vol info sharing industry. Iain: start w voluntary. Joe: parties starting with who agrees to the rule book. "I agree to trust framework" approach, reposition Kantara $7500 to support that. Iain: agreed. Juan: supporting this group personally, but work for a Swiss company. UK funding for European focus? Iain: UK starts with UK focus, applicable to Euro and wider trust frameworks model. Joe: Timeframe? Approval w/in 3 weeks, project delivery within 12 months. Joe: Range of expectations? Iain: 150K pounds is highest round, haven't thought about how that gets split up yet. Funding is 50:50 w UK funding & external funding sources. Need more formal proposal. Juan: it's a good idea, important for overall scalability & practical application of this.
Joe: thoughts on Kantara? Trent: anything short of signatures, leadership council (LC) can support. Iain, Trent, Joe will draft "group" allocated funding proposal for existing $7500 shift to revised focus. Iain will write up a more formalized proposal.
4b. New Business: Other
none
5. Action Items Review
Iain will follow up with non-attending members
Iain, Mark & Judi continuing work on report
Iain will think about IP for standard agreement (pending discussion or letter with Joni), and will hand off core IP from his previous work to this group. This is part of next:
Iain will write up a more formalized proposal to LC.
Joe will send an invitation to this discussion out to Parties listed in Apr 19 minutes - waiting until we get IP agreement settled.
Mark will forward this invite to the P3 group - waiting until we get IP agreement settled.
Next Standard Agreement Meeting
7 June 2010
6am Hawaii, 9am Pacific, Midday Eastern, 5pm UK
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Room Code: 2954214
Next Regular Meeting
14 June 2010
6am Hawaii, 9am Pacific, Midday Eastern, 5pm UK
Skype: +9900827042954214
US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
UK Dial-In: +44 (0) 8454018081
Room Code: 2954214
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