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  • Discussion of the need to uniquely identify clauses in the requirements.
  • Ken Crowl shared his list of his organization's concerns: Level of Assurance vs Identity Assurance Levels; Document verification; "Issuing Source". Overview of Experian position on NIST 800-63-3.pdf
  • Scott Shorter included a comment in support of the flow charts / decision trees included in 800-63-3.
  • Discussion of requirement for document verification for all remote proofing.  Call for a need for intermediate verification options that don't require the full rigor of IAL2 (remote + document verification). Technical challenges to document verification.

Reference: DRAFT IAWG Meeting Minutes 2017-02-23

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Key discussion items March 2nd:

REVIEW OF 800-63A

  • Richard mentioned that NIST has effectively taken away AL2.
  • Discussion of the fact that there are no mechanisms for validating drivers license, although AAMVA would like to be in that business.
  • Right now the only viable implementations are PKI or self-assertion.
  • Russ has had discussion with someone at GSA has looked into expanding passport service to support this, but they run into funding problems for this.  Financial institutions will also have difficulty verifying those sources.  Would not be surprised if there was an order of magnitude increase in costs - negotiating individual contracts with different states for drivers license validation would expand costs considerably, even if it was possible. Will probably result in stagnating the online credential business, unless GSA were to step in and provide those services on behalf of the government (along the lines of the ACES program).
  • Ken mentions the concern from CSPs about the implementation roadmap for when the new changes will be required. Colin says discussions have not taken place, but NIST are aware of Kantara's view on that.
  • Richard Wilsher points out that the enrollment processes of most CSPs would need to be changed to meet the new standard, that will not be rapid. Furthermore the question from Kantara's perspective - how soon would Kantara be able to perform assessments?  Thirdly, what would Kantara do to set a deadline by which CSPs would be required to comply.
  • Ken asks whether existing credentials would need to be re-proofed. Russ Weiser has mentioned that customers will be unhappy about that. Customers are already asking what to do about the standard. Something like that could result in a years of delay while credentials are updated.
  • Richard inquires what will happen with the existing SAC aligned with 63-2 - would we continue it in parallel?  Would there be an overlap?  What about those who are not in the US who are approved against the current criteria

Reference: DRAFT IAWG Meeting Minutes 2017-03-02