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Attendees:

Voting Participants: Ken Dagg, Martin Smith, Richard Wilsher, Mark Hapner. 

Non-voting participants: Jimmy Jung, Jeremy Haines Pradeep, Rohan Pinta , Roger Quint, Blake

Staff: Kay Chopard,  Ruth Puente

Quorum: There was quorum.


Agenda:

  1. Administration:
    1. Roll Call
    2. Agenda Confirmation
    3. Minute approval (DRAFT minutes of 2021-06-03)
    4. Staff reports and updates
    5. LC reports and updates
    6. Call for Tweet-worthy items to feed (@KantaraNews)
  2. Discussion
    1. Consideration of 'comparable alternatives' - See: https://groups.google.com/g/idassurance/c/GIGLjValdg4
    2. Australian Digital Identity Legislation Consultation Phase 2 - See: Public consultation on Australia’s Digital Identity legislation
    3. Proposal for a Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council amending Regulation (EU) No 910/2014 as regards establishing a framework for a European Digital Identity. See: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/trusted-and-secure-european-e-id-regulation
    4. d. Component Service Consumer criteria.

Meeting notes: 

Administrative items:

IAWG Chair Ken Dagg called the meeting to order at 1:05PM (US Eastern), and called the roll. It was noted that the meeting was quorate. 

 He then welcomed the new Kantara Executive Director (ED), Kay Chopard. Kay said she is very impressed with the variety of important work being done in Kantara and specifically in the IAWG, citing today's full agenda as an example. She has so far been fully occupied with learning how Kantara operates and meeting people in Kantara and from other organizations interested in working with us, but she looks forward to contributing to the substantive work very soon. She called out particularly the assistance Ruth Puentes has been providing to support a quick and smooth transition.  

Ken noted that Ruth is also transitioning, to a new position at another organization, as of July 1.  He congratulated her but also expressed how important she has been to maturing Kantara's Information Assurance Program, including her excellent support for the IAWG.  Kay commented that finding a new Information Assurance Program Manger is one of her highest priorities, and that she is currently evaluating several candidates. 

Ken added that pending a new IAPM's getting up to speed the WG will be on its own for administrative support and is in need of a volunteer Secretary to prepare Minutes. He emphasized that responsibility does not require a great deal of time and invited IAWG participants to contact him if they might be able to step up. 




a. Consideration of 'comparable alternatives' - See: https://groups.google.com/g/idassurance/c/GIGLjValdg4


The remaining agenda items were deferred to the next meeting due to time limitation:

b. Australian Digital Identity Legislation Consultation Phase 2 - See: Public consultation on Australia’s Digital Identity legislation
c. Proposal for a Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council amending Regulation (EU) No 910/2014 as regards establishing a framework for a European Digital Identity. See: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/trusted-and-secure-european-e-id-regulation
d. Component Service Consumer criteria.


Welcome new ED. Kay Chopard, new ED. Hope to do a lot of listening, Feel free to reach out kay@kantarainitiative.org.  

Minutes of June 3 – Mark Hapner, Eric.  Approved unanimously.

Staff updates: Ruth – 4-5 new SPs expected in next 2 months. Personnel:  Ruth leaving, last day. 

Ken:   will miss Ruth's excellent contributions over 9 years. Thanks very much. Richjerd-- great accomplice. Where is Ruth2 coming from 

Ken – impending replacement. Hand-over during month of July. Kay: a top priorities, couple of finalists. Ruth very very helpful. 

Ken-- Identiverse news, Kay?  Kay:  deluged with people meetign new ED, Did keynote with Ken Sutherland of Lexis-Nexis on leadership. No other sessions attended.  Said over 1/2 speakers new this year. Sessions are recorded. 

Ken – need Secretary. Do Minutes. Not too hard. Please send email to me and Martin to volunteer. 

LC-Ken:  Approved MDL privacy report, in pubs process.  Expect to be influential 

Call for Tweets




Minutes Approval

2021-06-03 Minutes were approved by motion. . Unanimous Approval 


Consideration of 'comparable alternatives' - See: https://groups.google.com/g/idassurance/c/GIGLjValdg4

Richard:  A Fed agency asks how would KI handle it's using a "compatible alternative to those in 800-63"  Sec 5.4. does allow Fed agencies to use "comparable alternatives" and says how.  So, KI could include such in our assessment but can't take on determination of what's comparable., David T discourages KI involvement, and seemed to think it would be sui generis. 

Martin: does Sec 5.4 say how "comparability" is determined?  Richard: somewhat. Richard suggests: we would handle, but 

IbLAKE – D.Me – thinks this is DOL, trying to use expired DLs. Hopes to service this requirement. THinks maybe ReaLid COULD BE ACCEPTABLE. 

eRIC tHO,MPSON AGREES THAT ALTERNATIVES SHOUDL BE ok, NOT EVERYONE HAS id

Ken:  2 issues:  gaping hole in rev 3; "comparable" process. 

Roger Quint: what are we trying to accomplish? Is this a general strategy for addressing exceptions? Need to avoid getting KI in the middle of hard determinations. 


Mark Hapner: 

SOCA:  applicable

(Pete Eskew. leaves) 


KEN–calls time on the discussion at 1:59

KEN: if we add this as a criterion does it add risk to KI in granting approvals.  




Australian Digital Identity Legislation Consultation Phase 2 - See: Public consultation on Australia’s Digital Identity legislation


Proposal for a Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council amending Regulation (EU) No 910/2014 as regards establishing a framework for a European Digital Identity. See: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/trusted-and-secure-european-e-id-regulation


Component Service Consumer criteria.



Next Meeting: TBC


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