UMA telecon 2011-08-18

Date and Time

WG telecon on Thursday, 18 Aug 2011, at 9-10am PT (shortened to 60min) (time chart)
- Skype line "C": +9900827042954214
- US: +1-201-793-9022 (other int'l numbers) | Room Code: 295-4214

Agenda

Roll call
Approve minutes of 2011-08-11 meeting
Action item review
UMA in Waterford Inst contest?
OpenID Connect-ions
Resolve highest-priority core protocol issues
- In GitHub repository yet?
AOB

Attendees

As of 30 July 2011, quorum is 7 of 12.

Fletcher, George
Hardjono, Thomas
Maler, Eve
Moren, Lukasz
Morrow, Susan
Szpot, Jacek
Wray, Frank

Non-voting:

John Bradley
Kevin Cox

Regrets:

D'Agostino, Salvatore

Minutes

New AI summary

2011-08-18-1	Eve	Open	Work on the non-attending voting participant list.
2011-08-18-2	Eve	Open	Work with Maciej, Don, and John to figure out if we can participate in a Sep summit discussion, and subsequently an Oct one.
2011-08-18-3	Eve	Open	Tentatively schedule a Kantara F2F slot (Thursday afternoon?).
2011-08-18-4	Susan, Eve	Open	Draft a Waterford Institute contest entry.
2011-08-18-5	Lukasz	Open	Propose a simple error message for GitHub issue #4.
2011-08-18-6	Eve	Open	Look up resolution to GitHub issue #3 and give Thomas instructions for incorporating it.
2011-08-18-7	Eve	Open	Submit new issue for "requester-to-* first" flows.

Roll call

Quorum was reached.

Approve minutes of 2011-08-11 meeting

Deferred.

Upcoming F2F opportunities and liaison work

There's kind of an "identity festival" week Oct 17-21 in the Bay area.

OpenID Summit Mon Oct 17 (possibly at Facebook?)
IIW Tue-Thu Oct 18-20 in Mountain View
- Special "NSTIC" focus day Wed Oct 19
- Special "Yukon" focus day Thu Oct 20
Kantara F2F in Redwood City Thu-Fri Oct 20-21

There's also an OpenID Summit a month earlier, Sep 12-13. The goal there is to get implementer feedback.

Ideally we'd take the opportunity to spend quality time with willing/able OpenID Connect experts during that week, but it's important for us to do a fair amount of homework together ahead of time to make this worthwhile. We think John, George, and potentially a new Google rep could be good for this. Should we try and get an OpenID Summit slot (either/both summits) for serious UMA/OIC use-case and technical work? We think this is a good idea.

Should we also try and capture a Kantara F2F meeting slot, ideally on Fri Oct 21 so that we don't overlap with IIW's Yukon Day? Eve will be around all week. George will be around through Thursday. John will be there but in a lot of board meetings.

Frank has also been pursuing questions around recent SWIFT/European banking initiatives on personally controlled financial data. It's a very VRM-ish use case. He has reached out to Peter Vander Auwera. We believe Peter has had some discussions with Doc Searls. Frank will be checking out whether his own employer may be interested in these use cases.

Action item review

2011-04-14-1 Maciej, Alam, Eve Open Build list of FAQs (both questions and candidate answers) on the wiki. Eve has written a few new answers. Sal may take on a few too. The SMART team still has to write a special SMARTAM Q&A.
2011-07-07-1 John Open Advise on how to make Claims 2.0 JWT-friendly. We hope to make progress in Sep and Oct collaboratively. Could the SCIM filtering language be an easy mega-wildcard solution to pick up?
2011-07-07-2 Thomas Open Capture all current issues, resolutions, and statuses in GitHub. Mostly done.
2011-07-07-4 Maciej M., Lukasz Now OBE Examine issue #38 and propose a solution.

UMA in Waterford Institute contest

Contest info is here. Past winners are here.

A colleague of Susan's who does a lot of EU work pointed us to this contest. We agreed to have a go at it. The entry is due Sep 16. We'll share the draft with the group.

Resolve highest-priority core protocol issues in GitHub

Old issue #14 (high-priority) is now GitHub issue #2.

Old issue #24 is now GitHub issue #3. We believe that we decided this.

Old issue #15 is now GitHub issue #4: Lukasz notes that SMARTAM already generates an error for this. We should probably end up closing this issue and starting a new issue for the much larger question of how different "market segments" handle claims they don't understand. This could be related our health use-case work.

New issue: Various "requester-to-host first" (known resource location) vs. "request-to-AM first" (unknown resource location) flows: How do we solve for additional ones? We think the latter is where OpenID Connect comes in.

Next Meetings

Note: Meetings are now 60 minutes in length.

WG telecon on Thursday, 25 Aug 2011, at 9-10am PT (time chart)
WG telecon on Thursday, 1 Sep 2011, at 9-10am PT (time chart)
WG telecon on Thursday, 8 Sep 2011, at 9-10am PT (time chart)
- Skype line "C": +9900827042954214
- US: +1-201-793-9022 (other int'l numbers) | Room Code: 295-4214