LC telecon 2013-01-30

Date and Time

Date: Wednesday, 30 January 2013
Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 21:00 UTC (time chart)
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Agenda

Roll Call
Discussion
1. Subscriber vs. Member
2. OpenStand
3. RSA Hospitality
AOB
Adjourn

Attendees

Myisha Frazier-McElveen
Allan Foster
Eve Maler
Colin Wallis
Pete Palmer
Colin Soutar
Sal D'Agostino

Staff:

Heather Flanagan (scribe)
Andrew Hughes

Notes

Update from Pete

just got off a call with Direct Trust
they have bought into our vision of segregating identity proofing from credential management; they envision a world of federated RAs that could do the in-person proofing and then they could get an acceptable credential to submit protected PII documents
they will respect FICAM approved Trust Framework Providers
This could really ramp up our assessor business; the ecosystem has just ballooned in to L3 and L4 with the healthcare space
this program rolls out Q2 of this year

Subscriber vs. Member

the rationale for having the Subscriber class was that we had several people who are involved in this organization and involved in the federation, but we don't have any way of capturing or recognizing them as stakeholders; they are not the same stakeholders as the Relying Parties but they have some skin in the game
we did not want to end up with a vendor-driven org, so we thought to limit the influence they have in the outcomes, which is why we ended up in the position that we are
- how can we make them feel more included without having them seem to be unduly influencing the outputs of the org?
- if it is one primary contact per vote for all member ballots, they would be "diluted"
- do we even have any Subscriber members at this time? there are about 8
- Note that work group participation does not require any level of membership at all
- the connection points between WG and LC really when a group has a recommendation or a report they want branded; Kantara attracts thought groups
- why does Kantara need to see two different classes of memberships? There is a membership and a certification; Subscribers are not automatically certified participants
- (Joni) would bring all the certification fees together, it would gain access to additional resources to onboard orgs through certification; it was a member specifically for the purposes of becoming a certification; it was just a "combo meal" where they would have access to staff and resources (e.g. testing verification tools)
- this would apply to both technical interoperability (IRB) and trust framework (ARB)
- idea is to give Subscriber class voting right as any other member with additional access to Kantara resources for the purposes of achieving certification and supporting the board of trustee proposal to create 2 subcommittees, one for Assurance one for CSPs; there is nothing a Subscriber member would have that a Member would have other than access to resources to help them become certified and use of the Trust Mark should they pass their certification assessment and limitations on voting and participating on Certification issues on the BoT
- The LC needs to recommend how the OP will change, share with the BoT for info, and then have the changes to go out for an All-Member ballot (which Subscribers could not vote in unless they are also Members)

RSA Hospitality

we have an opportunity to partner with others to host a hospitality night at RSA; the hosts are responsible for raising $5K USD each to fund the evening; that $5K raised can be from any mix and match of subsponsor; they get logo and materials present, and their name on the invitation in email
The partners are Kantara, AntiPhishing WG, Tech America, and National Cybersecurity Alliance
Forgerock, IEEE-SA and OpenStand and Internet Society have all agreed to work with Kantara and will cover the remaining $1K if we don't find a fifth sponsor (though there are several organizations considering participating)

OpenStand

http://open-stand.org/ = "OpenStand is a global community that stands together in support of The Modern Paradigm for Standards – an open, collective movement to radically improve the way people around the globe develop, deploy and embrace technologies for the benefit of humanity."
the notes are brief in the LC notes (not minutes) out of the 29 August call (http://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LC/LC+telecon+Notes+2012-08-29). More information can be found in the mailman archives for the list (http://kantarainitiative.org/pipermail/lc/2012-September/subject.html) from when we did a poll of the group to see what they thought. Patrick, Colin W, and Pete approved on behalf of their WG. Colin S had some concerns about the license component, and Sal (DG chair at the time, so no formal vote) had similar concerns. Since this was a poll and therefore non-binding, we didn't chase after any kind of quorum. No one else on the LC chimed in.
this has come up in a lecture by Tim Berners-Lee in New Zealand who supported this effort
comparable IPR may be something that is for further discussion, and signing up would allow Kantara to participate in that discussion

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