Leadership Council Teleconference - 2009-11-11

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Minutes approved on December 2, 2009

Kantara Leadership Council Teleconference

Date and Time

  • Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009
  • Time: 9am PST | 12pm EST | 17:00 UTC (Time Chart)
  • Teleconference Options:
    • Skype: +9900827043671716
    • US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022 | Room Code: 3671716

NOTES:

Attendees

  • Voting:
    • Japan WG: Kenji Takahashi
    • ID-WSF Evolution: Paul Madsen
    • Consumer ID: Bob Pinheiro
    • User-Managed Access: Eve Maler
    • Information Sharing: Joe Andrieu
    • Clients: Conor Cahill
    • eGov: Colin Wallis
    • ULX: Paul Trevithick
    • BoT Representative: Ken Salzberg
    • BoT Representative: Matthew Gardiner
  • Non-Voting:
    • Identity Update DG: J. Trent Adams
    • Staff: Dervla O'Reilly
    • Staff: Brett McDowell
    • Staff: Joni Brennan

Apologies

  • none

Agenda

  1. Roll Call for Quorum Determination
  2. Approval of prior meeting minutes
    1. Review: Leadership Council Teleconference - 2009-10-28
  3. Update: All Member Ballot Results
  4. Discuss: P3WG Strategy Request
    1. Review: Privacy and Policy Strategy Formation
  5. Proposed WG: Telecommunications Identity Work Group
    1. Review: Telecommunications Identity Work Group Charter
    2. Vote via Email: Deadline November 20, 2009
  6. Discuss: IIW Recap
  7. Discuss: Roadmap of Deliverables
  8. Call for WG and DG Quarterly Reports
  9. Call for Cross-Group Participation Committee
  10. Announce: Next KI Conference
    1. Overview
    2. Proposed Agenda
  11. AOB

Minutes

  1. Roll Call for Quorum Determination
    1. Quorum reached: 10 voting members (out of a potential 15)
  2. Approval of prior meeting minutes
    1. Review: Leadership Council Teleconference - 2009-10-21
      1. Motion to approve and accept minutes as recorded. Motion carried.
    2. NOTE: Leadership Council Teleconference - 2009-10-28 did not reach quorum, and was treated as an informal discussion, not an official meeting.
  3. Brett requested that the meeting end at 18:00 UTC to avoid a conflict with another meeting on the same teleconference bridge.
    1. Consensus agreement to manage the call to 60 minutes, and drop what couldn't be accommodated within that time.
  4. Update: All Member Ballot Results
    1. Motions to update the Operating Procedures were approved by the All-Member Ballot.
    2. Operating Procedure document v.1.1 reflecting the changes has been uploaded and are now available.
  5. Discuss: P3WG Strategy Request
    1. Review: Privacy and Policy Strategy Formation
    2. Discussed options how the Leadership Council can respond as a body
    3. Consensus was to capture possible suggestions, discuss on the LC list and send them as informal suggestions to the P2WG.
    4. Captured suggestions:
      1. Eve: As illuminated by the GSA/ICAM Identity Trust Framework, perhaps the P3WG could explore the idea of "Levels of Protection" and "Privacy Policy Agreements", perhaps coordinating with IAWG.
      2. Joe: Following the work of Jeff Jonas about the privacy concerns related to "Space Time Travel", perhaps the P3WG could consider authoring a white paper addressing related privacy issues.
      3. Brett: How to manage liaisons with other external bodies with respect to privacy standards (eg. privacy maturity capability model at ISO/IEC 29190)
      4. Colin: Perhaps the P3WG could provide a proactive scan across KI WGs to look for various privacy issues and raise flags.
      5. Bob: Perhaps the P3WG could explore producing a white paper on what kind of assurance levels could be assigned to various government operations (presumably focused on the U.S. government).
      6. Brett: A useful tool would be a published and maintained list of key international public policy debates on Identity (i.e. who is doing what work where).
    5. Action Item: Trent to circulate suggestions via the LC list for further discussion.
  6. Proposed WG: Telecommunications Identity Work Group
    1. Review: Telecommunications Identity Work Group Charter
    2. Discussion:
      1. Request for more clarity around the proposed whitepapers
      2. Additional discussion to take place via the LC list
    3. Vote is planned to open Monday, November 16 and end on Monday November 23, 2009
    4. Action Item: Trent to work with the proposed WG to address questions and set up the vote.
  7. Discuss: IIW Recap
    1. IIW 9 was one of the most active and intense IIW sessions to date. It was well attended with a lot of active participatory sessions.
    2. UMA held an official pre-IIW session that led into IIW, and signed up new participants
    3. The announced OAuth-WRAP work (from Microsoft with Google and Yahoo, intended for IETF) will potentially require a shift in focus by the UMA WG.
    4. There were many sessions on "identity selectors" and "active clients"
    5. There was a similar focus in several sessions to harmonize the user experience across various login methods, including OpenID, InfoCard, and proprietary solutions such as Facebook Connect.
    6. There was an energetic meeting on what could be the next major version of OpenID. There was a strong push toward supporting active clients, and support for the concept that it not be backward compatible.
      1. Question: Does it look like OpenID and InfoCard are merging together?
      2. Answer: There is no single voice, but there is movement toward a set of common requirements
    7. The ULX WG lead a session (following a similar discussion at the OpenID Workshop earlier in the week). There were mixed feelings of this work being done at Kantara:
      1. Question: What are the issues relating to the "mixed feelings" that Kantara is encountering?
      2. Other groups are working toward similar goals.
      3. A Microsoft participant specifically stated they believe that any solution must include involvement by Chris Messina or it won't advance or be adopted.
      4. NOTE: An agenda item will be added to the next teleconference on the issues of effective cross-group interaction.
  8. Call for Roadmap of Deliverables
    1. Looking for planned deliverables and related milestones
    2. Action Item: Brett to send out a request to the LC list.
  9. Call for WG and DG Quarterly Reports
    1. Each WG need to "Submitting a quarterly WG status report to the LC Secretary;" (according to OP 3.3.1)
    2. 2009-Q3 reports will be due on December 1st, 2009.
    3. Action Item: Trent will send out a formal request to the LC list.
  10. Call for Cross-Group Participation Committee
    1. Dropped from agenda due to lack of time.
  11. Announce: Next KI Conference
    1. Overview
    2. Proposed Agenda
    3. Dropped from agenda due to lack of time.
    4. Action Item: Dervla to discuss on the LC list.
  12. Meeting adjourned at 18:00 UTC.

Next Meeting

  • Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009
  • Time: 3pm PST | 6pm EST | 22:00 UTC (Time Chart)
  • Teleconference Options:
    • Skype: +9900827043671716
    • US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022 | Room Code: 3671716

NOTES: