2022-10-12 Meeting notes

Approved 26 October 2022


Date

Oct 12, 2022

Attendees

See the Participant roster

Voting (5 of 10 required for quorum)

Participant

Attending

Participant

Attending

1

Aronson, Marc

 

2

Davis, Peter

 

3

D'Agostino, Salvatore

 

4

Hodges, Gail

Yes

5

Hughes, Andrew

 

6

Jones, Thomas

 

7

Krishnaraj, Venkat

 

8

Thoma, Andreas

 

9

Williams, Christopher

 

10

Wunderlich, John

Yes

Non-Voting

Participant

Attending

Participant

Attending

1

Auld, Lorrayne

 

2

Balfanz, Dirk

 

3

Chaudhury, Atef

Yes

4

Brudnicki, David

 

5

Dutta, Tim

 

6

Flanagan, Heather

Yes

7

Fleenor, Judith

 

8

Glasscock, Amy

 

9

Gropper, Adrian

 

10

Jordaan, Loffie

Yes

11

LeVasseur, Lisa

 

12

Lopez, Cristina Timon

 

13

Snell, Oliver

 

14

Stowell, Therese

 

15

Tamanini, Greg

 

16

Vachino, Maria

 

17

Whysel, Noreen

 

Other attendees

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Goals

  • Check-in on work progress

  • Review draft outline and status of writing tasks

Discussion items (AKA Agenda)

Time

Item

Who

Notes

Time

Item

Who

Notes

  • Start the meeting.

  • Call to order.

  • Approve minute

  • Approve agenda

@John Wunderlich 

Called to order at 13:07

Quorum not achieved

Minutes to Approve:

Approved by those attending

10 min.

Open Tasks Review

All

5 min.

Draft Report Discussion

@John Wunderlich 

Discussions

Report from Implementor’s Report sub-group

Created a subgroup that is starting to integrate what's in confluence for the draft implementers report. That includes members from Google, AAMVA, Apple, and John now; others are welcome to join. Meetings are weekly on Monday. Edits are being made in a Google doc.

In each of the three areas (Info for Verifiers, Providers, and Issuers), looking at a three-part axis: framing statement, guidance, and evidence (how do you prove you have done this).

Note that the Candidate Requirements do not fit in this report. Those requirements are for conformance testing; the implementer report fit in that framework. What's in the wiki now in the implementer's report on the wiki is more a brain dump of what could be in the report. Moving ahead with the requirements will be hard unless we have the implementers guidance is there to set the framing.

The devil remains in the detail; while there is general agreement, the specifics around things like "what is consent" are still an issue. We will have to dig into what we intend with the phrase "operational circumstances." The burden right now is on the verifier as to what's appropriate in a given circumstance; when we get around to requirements and validation, conformance testers will have to judge what's appropriate. The holder/wallet maker will in turn need to say whether the info they're being asked for is appropriate or not. How do we articulate the responsibilities for the holder or their agent?


Tasks:

20 min.

Requirements Review

@John Wunderlich

Pending



Other Business



Welcome Heather Flanagan

HF will be attending calls, taking notes and sending out updates, and will be lead editor for the reports, making sure they're in Kantara format and helping drive consensus. More info on HF is available via LInkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hlflanagan/

5 min.

Adjourn





Next meeting

Oct 19, 2022 

Action items

@John Wunderlich to add Heather to Monday calls