**Non Quorate call - may be read into next call's Minutes on January 10th 2011**

Kantara eGov Working Group Teleconference

Date and Time

Date: 6 December 2010
Time: 10:00 PDT | 13:00 EDT | 19:00 CET | 07:00 NZ (7th December)

Attendees

Voting:

Shin Adachi, NTT

Fulup Ar Foll, Oracle

Scott Cantor, Internet2

LaChelle LeVan, Probaris

Colin Wallis, Internal Affairs Dept, NZ Govt

Non-Voting:

Sal D'Agostino*,*

Patricia Wiebe, Province of BC, Canada

Staff:

Anna Ticktin

Apologies

Keith Uber

Agenda

1) Roll call for Quorum determination
2) eGov Membership Status. New member intros (CW)
3) Review and approve October 4 meeting draft minutes (Oct 4 attendees) and Review and approve October 21 F2F Paris meeting draft minutes (Paris attendees)
4) Read in November 1st meeting Notes [A]
5) Work Item 1: CA and FI piloting Template for eGov Deployment Profiles of SAML v2.0 in Q1 2011(Bobs and Keith)
6) Continue discussion on option of Work Item 2: eGov Deployment model and cookbook (join with Telco ID WG to do?) Fulup to present?? [B]
7) Continue Discussion on option of Work Item 2: Attribute Exchange ToC? incl. debrief of Rainer's presentation last week. (All) [C]
8) Decide on Call date for January: Monday Jan 10th proposed
9) LC and BoT updates (Incl. Assurance Review Board, Interop Review Board, IOP WG) (CW/JB)
10) Liaison: OASIS eGov Member Section: Upcoming Government Transformation workshop and TC (CW)
11) AOB

[A] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/Draft+Notes+eGov+Meeting2010-11-01|../display/eGov/Draft+NoteseGov+Meeting+2010-11-01|||\

[B] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/41648511/Massively-Scalable-IDP-Architecture-Telco-ArFoll.pdf|../download/attachments/41648511/Massively-Scalable-IDP-Architecture-Telco-ArFoll.pdf|||\

[C] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/Special+Meeting+Presentation+by+Rainer+HorbeAttribute+Management+and+Exchange+in+Austria|../display/eGov/Special+MeetingPresentation+by+Rainer+Horbe+Attribute+Management+and+Exchange+in+Austria|||\

Meeting Notes

1) Roll call for Quorum determination

7 out of 13 needed for Quorum. Quorum not reached.

2) eGov Membership Status. New member intros (CW)

Welcome to LaChelle LeVan on the first call

3) Review and approve October 4 meeting draft minutes (Oct 4 attendees) and Review and approve October 21 F2F Paris meeting draft minutes (Paris attendees)

No quorum so could not approve. Colin will circulate and obtain vote to accept (or not) by email

4) Read in November 1st meeting Notes [A]

No quorum so carried over

5) Work Item 1: CA and FI piloting Template for eGov Deployment Profiles of SAML v2.0 in Q1 2011(Bobs and Keith)

Revisit of rationale for Deployment Profiles: Comment on the current SAML 2.0 interop conformance Implementation Profile was that for deployment purposes it is a bit too little on detail perhaps caused by the scope attempted being a bit too broad? OK for software vendor implementations, but does not cater for specifics of deployers. Fed Canada expects to release its Deployment profile using the agreed draft template next month. Finland has already used the Draft template (was partially populated with Canada requirements) and will report back later in 2011.

6) Continue discussion on option of Work Item 2: eGov Deployment model and cookbook (join with Telco ID WG to do?) Fulup to present?? [B]

Fulup joined the call to talk to the presentation "Massively Scalable IDP Architecture" from the Kantara TelcoID WG. The WG has a timeframe of 36-48 months to complete this as it is a huge job - multi device, multi channel, multi service with 'access rules' such as user stipulating "only use my phone to contact me in the first 2 days and in a break glass situation - all else, use email". Design goals similar to TAS3 but use a back channel for some actions, not via the user/browser every time. More a 'Identity Centric Internet'. And differentiate between secure and non secure services, rather than Authn to cover the weakest link. (slide 6) Design in privacy and choice as well as legal interception. Slide 7) Looking to develop architecture patterns for folks to implement,as a reference implementation. Conformance and certification will be important. (Slide 10) Session Mgt is a key consideration. Call to action to to ask eGov to contribute Uses Cases (additional work Item for 2011?) multi-device, multi-jurisdictional, and any key metrics/SLAs that need to be adhered to.

7) Continue Discussion on option of Work Item 2: Attribute Exchange ToC? incl. debrief of Rainer's presentation last week. (All) [C]

It was noted that the UMA WG has done some work in this area, which could help inform a ToC item. Note that notes from Rainer's presentation on Austria's experience with Attribute Exchange are already published [C] linked below. Comment that much of the work pre-dates SAML 2 specs and (especially the new draft specs like Metadata exchange) would offer a more straight forward solution to the challenges, but by no means the whole answer.:

8) Decide on Call date for January: Monday Jan 10th proposed.

Due to lack of quorum, Colin/Anna will take to the list

9) LC and BoT updates (Incl. Assurance Review Board, Interop Review Board, IOP WG) (CW/JB)

BoT: Reported that provisional budget struck, that WG projects will be funded from reserves. Discussion on raising membership dues and how to deal with confidentiality asked by external organisations when KI asked to comment. LC: New leadership: 'Our own' John Bradley as Chair, Pete Palmer (Healthcare ID WG) Vice Chair, Eve Maler Secretary.

10) Liaison: OASIS eGov Member Section: Upcoming Government Transformation workshop and TC (CW)

11) AOB

[A] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/Draft+Notes+eGov+Meeting2010-11-01|../display/eGov/Draft+NoteseGov+Meeting+2010-11-01|||\

[B] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/41648511/Massively-Scalable-IDP-Architecture-Telco-ArFoll.pdf|../download/attachments/41648511/Massively-Scalable-IDP-Architecture-Telco-ArFoll.pdf|||\

[C] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/Special+Meeting+Presentation+by+Rainer+HorbeAttribute+Management+and+Exchange+in+Austria|../display/eGov/Special+MeetingPresentation+by+Rainer+Horbe+Attribute+Management+and+Exchange+in+Austria|||\

Next Meeting: tbc but probably ...

Date: Monday, January 10, 2011
Time: 10:00 PDT | 13:00 EDT | 19:00 CET | 07:00 NZ (11th)
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