2015-11-30 Meeting Notes USTs

2015-11-30 Meeting Notes USTs

Date

Nov 30, 2015

Attendees

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Former user (Deleted)

  • @Mark Lizar (Unlicensed)

Discussion

  • We discussed projects that are quickly trying to implement a non-contractual set of terms where we might help.

    • Duration may not be on the table for initial round at those projects

    • #safeads may be signal that an ad is not based on tracking to separate things based upon tracking

  • Law and privacy

    • EU changes in Data Protection expected in next month

    • FIPs based practices – may not scale in modern world but are dominant paradigm

      • where are you now?

      • where do you want to be?

      • what are ways to get there?

      • what do we do now?

    • Privacy Act 1974 originally just covered govt data collection (taxes and census - slow) but now it's lots of data and very fast

    • Bridge FIPs and Privacy Act.. knit together with contracts

    • Arbitrage needs to support the user

    • Don't want to constrain ourselves to FIPs duties

    • Some history on FIPs:  http://bobgellman.com/rg-docs/rg-FIPShistory.pdf  by Bob Gellman

  • How do people provide their own notice?

    • Can we portray this as more than privacy? Duties can help where terms give a complementary set of rights for personal data control.

    • Contracts become epoxy

  • ME-vertising - intentcasting

    • for advertisers where we do wish to be known, we still need terms for that

    • advertising is tracking verses not-tracking based

      • brand? verses tracking ads

  • Need intermediary to control the exchange of data, the way banks do this for exchange of money

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Action Items

@Mary to send out calendar invite for meeting Tuesday Dec 1 at 3pm PT, 6pm ET, 11pm GMT for working session on terms language