Kantara Initiative Privacy & Public Policy Teleconference

Date and Time

• Date: Thursday, 24 SEP, 2009
• Time: 08:00 PDT | 11:00 EDT | 16:00 UTC

Meeting Minute Status

This page is a Working Draft subject to further revision and has not yet been approved by the Privacy & Public Policy Work Group.

Attendees

1. Iain Henderson
2. Susan Landau
3. Georgia Marsh
4. Darrell Shull
5. Jeff Stollman
6. Randy vanderHoof

Apologies

1. Trent Adams
2. Patrick Curry
3. Fich Furr
4. Robin Wilton

QUORUM was not achieved

Agenda

1. Roll Call
2. Quorum Issue
3. ICAM Report update
4. US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Privacy Roundtable 07 DEC in Washington, DC
5. Las Vegas Plenary Report
6. Kantara Matrix of Mandates
7. Collaboration site
8. Comparison of US/UK Levels of Assurance
9. Leveraging the Smart-Card Alliance Meeting at the end of October
10. Vice-chair and Secretary nominations
11. AOB
12. Updated Roll Call

Minutes

1. Roll Call

Summary:

• Quorum not attained

2. Quorum

Summary:

• ROBIN: ACTION: draft a letter to those not participating regarding Observer status
• JEFF: ACTION:  Distribute letter to those who are not participating

3. ICAM letter status

Summary:

• JEFF:  ACTION:   resubmit ICAM ballot after quorum issue is resolved
• No changes to current document

4. US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Privacy Roundtable 07 DEC in Washington, DC

• We will draft a Report to submit in response to the FTC's questions on privacy
  • IAIN & JEFF:  ACTION:  draft straw-man response to questions 1 and 3
  • SUSAN expressed concern that risk assessment at the data element level is too ambitious (Question 1 repsonse) to expect FTC to take action;
  • We need to consider whether we can develop a simpler approach to attain similar results
  • discussed, but did not resolve, whether we would address need for consumer education to alert them to the risks.  This is not explicitly one of the FTC's questions, but address question 2 which asks for what consumers concerns about privacy are.  SUSAN suggested we come up with rules for educating consumers
  • SUSAN:  ACTION:  sent out links to two papers:  one on how de-anonymization increases privacy risk and the other on using icons to simplify privacy preferences
  • IAIN:  ACTION:  sent out link to BT privacy study
  • RANDY:  has already submitted a panelist application on behalf of Smart-Card Alliance
  • JEFF:  ACTION:  will submit a panelist application on behalf of P3
  • SUSAN:  ACTION:  will check with Brett to determine if there are other Kantara plans to respond to FTC request to maintain alignment

5. Las Vegas Plenary report

• This was tabled until Robin is available on the next call

6. Creating Kantara Matrix of Mandates

• COLIN SOUTAR has recommended that a matrix be created summarizing the charters, IP policies, and call times for all Kantara groups
  • We determined that this is a great idea, but should be a Kantara staff assignment, not a P3 task
  • JEFF:  ACTION:  Jeff sent a note to Staff for consideration of implementing this idea

7. Collaboration Tools

• RANDY:  suggested using GoToMeeting to allow live editing of documents rather than email and version management
• RANDY:  ACTION:  make sure that this is being considered by Kantara as a Kantara-wide recommendation

8. Comparison of US & UK Levels of Assurance

• PATRICK CURRY:  has sent letter to UK seeking clarification of their view on comparability with US NIST's four levels of assurance.  He'll report when he gets a response.

9. Using Smart-Card Alliance meeting for Kantara face-to-face on East Coast

• RANDY:  Offered a room for Kantara, but no significant interest has been generated.  We are considering this item closed.  But Randy's offer remains in place if we find new value in holding a meeting at the SCA conference

10. Officer nominations

• DARRELL:  Offered to serve as Secretary
• JEFF:  Offered to serve as Vice-Chair
• ROBIN WILTON:  ACTION:  Issue ballot to fill these positions after quorum issue is resolved.

11. All Other Business

• SUSAN:  recommended that P3 develop a strategic focus to move us beyond fire-fighting mode
• JEFF:  ACTION:  sent out email to P3 distribution soliciting ideas and discussion on P3 strategic focus in advance of next meeting

12. Update Roll Call

• No one new had joined during call

ACTION ITEMS

• ROBIN: ACTION: draft a letter to those not participating regarding Observer status
• ROBIN WILTON:  ACTION:  Issue ballot to fill these positions after quorum issue is resolved.

• SUSAN:  ACTION:  sent out links to two papers:  one on how de-anonymization increases privacy risk and the other on using icons to simplify privacy preferences
• SUSAN:  ACTION:  will check with Brett to determine if there are other Kantara plans to respond to FTC request to maintain alignment

• RANDY:  ACTION:  make sure that this is being considered by Kantara as a Kantara-wide recommendation

• IAIN:  ACTION:  sent out link to BT privacy study
• IAIN & JEFF:  ACTION:  draft straw-man response to FTC questions 1 and 3
• JEFF: ACTION:  Distribute letter to those who are not participating
• JEFF:  ACTION:   resubmit ICAM ballot after quorum issue is resolved
• JEFF:  ACTION:  will submit a FTC panelist application on behalf of P3
• JEFF:  ACTION:  Jeff sent a note to Staff for consideration of implementing Matrix of Mandates
• JEFF:  ACTION:  sent out email to P3 distribution soliciting ideas and discussion on P3 strategic focus in advance of next meeting

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