Kantara P3WGTeleconference Meeting Minutes 2010-04-01

Date and Time

• Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010
• Time: 08:00 PDT | 11:00 EDT | 15:00 UTC

Attendees

• Trent Adams
• Patrick Curry
• Mark Lizar
• Brett McDowell
• Lindi Siegert
• Jeff Stollman
• Robin Wilton
• Joni Brennan

Roll Call and Apologies

(Note Added: This call did not reach quorum)

• Abbie Barbir
• Susan Landau

2.     Need new secretary

a.      Brett noted that secretary is historian for group as well as minute takerb.    Another vital roll is tracking active members so that we can meet quorum and make headway each meeeting

d.   The discussion raised the issue that we need to reduce the current active members list to establish quorum.

e.    ACTION:  Joni will provide Jeff with her counts from recents calls to establish candidates to move to Observer status

Action Item Updates

Events:  Attendance/representation at upcoming events

          i.     EEMA 8-10 June (Robin)

                 1.       Robin will be speaking on panel hosted  by John Savo of CA

         ii.     OECD in Israel 25-26 October (Abbie)

                1.     ACTION:  Abbie to seek travel funding to support this

                       a.       Passed until Abbie’s return

                2.       Update Christine with results: Christine Runnegar <runnegar@isoc.org>

3.       Action Item updates

a.       Liaisons relationship with OASIS Privacy Management TC and ETSI (Abbie)

          i.     Passed until Abbie’s return

b.       UK Revenue live meeting on 23 FEB (Robin)

          i.     Snow impeded progress

          ii.     Established agenda for next quarterly meeting

          iii.     Patrick Curry:  HMRC (Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs) is focused on SC27 WG5 privacy

                  1.       Best source of data (other than citizenship) is data  shared by tax and pension databases

                  2.       Want to validate citizenship as a service (Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs) service

                  3.       He is briefing BBFA next month on Kantara IAF with jurisdictional annexes to highlight differences

                            a.       Differences are likely to be around vetting and privacy

                            b.       Approval of the annexes will be by each jurisdiction/nation, not KI IAwg or P3wg   

           iv.     Brett

                 1.       If KI is producing privacy profiles through IAF as annexes, these might conflict with P3wg

           v.     Joni

                 1.       ARB will be responsible pro forma annexes to provide the guidelines (including the Service Assessment Criteria) to help jurisdictions to build their own annexes

c.       Robin & Kaliya Hamlin met with Lucy Lynch at a law firm in DC along with various other SMEs (including Bob Paneiro of P3) and government staffers on 18-19 MAR as feedback to FTC

          i.     Bob Paneiro is documenting views on “harm” as a criteria for measuring privacy impact

e.       Privacy module update (Robin)

          i.     Brett McDowell asks:  has privacy module been overcome by events when IAwg put together privacy annex for ICAM?

          ii.     Colin Soutar & Trent Adams want us to develop a module that incorporates commonalities across jurisdictions

          iii.     ACTION:  Robin, Colin, & Trent will seek to make a decision by the next call with suggested path forward

f.       Sharing documents with OECD (Joni)

          i.     Not covered due to lack of time

4.     Approve minutes from previous meeting

a.      Minutes from 28 JAN

b.     Minutes from 04 FEB

c.      Minutes from 18 FEB

d.     Minutes from 25 FEB

e.      We believe that we had not established quorum to approve minutes (but we weren't sure as per Items 2d and 2e above)

5.     Meeting Schedule review

a.      Jeff reported that initial feedback to his email solicited reasons for erratic attendance seems to be the result of moving schedule conflicts -- espeically amont independant members who much make the choice between attending meetings (volunteer work) versus pursuing assignments (paid work)

b.     This issue will not be resolved by a change in meeting times or frequency.  So no  changes are anticipated at this time.

6.     Review P3wg charter (http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/p3wg/Charter)

a.     Brett sent out an email suggesting that the wording of the charter become a time sink and that we might be better served by focusing on strategic actions that will define us by our results

b.     Robin noted that he had thought it opportune to review the charter in view of his stepping down as chairman to allow the new leadership a freer hand to direct efforts

c.     Jeff noted that as vice-chariman, he did not feel overshadowed by Robin's initial efforts and that he appreciates not only these early efforts, but Robin's continuing on as a substantial contributor and direction setter.

d.    Attendees agree to put Charter wording aside and focus on strategic projects

7.     Privacy module

a.       See Item 2e above

8.     P3wg outreach to corporate CPOs (Robin)

a.      Darrel Schull (through his affiliation with BIPAC) communicates regularly with CPOs. 

b.     He is willing to distribute a 1-page letter with his newsletter

c.      Robin has drafted the letter to submit to Darrel for his approval

d.     We will then submit approved letter to group for P3 approval

9.     All other business

a.      OASIS eGov (not covered because of time limitations)

10.  Update Roll Call

11.  Review Action Items

a.  ACTION:  Joni will provide Jeff with her counts from recents calls to establish candidates to move to Observer status

b.  ACTION:  Robin, Colin, & Trent will seek to make a decision on the Privacy Module by the next call with suggested path forward

Next Meeting

• Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010
• Time: 08:00 PDT | 11:00 EDT | 15:00 UTC (Time Chart)