P3WG Meeting Minutes 2010-08-26

Minutes

1. Roll Call

Attendees 

  1. Abbie
  2. Colin
  3. Susan
  4. Jeff
  5. Mark
  6. Anna Slomovic

NON Voting

  1. Anna Ticktin
  2.  

AGENDA:
1.      Roll call
2.       Action Item updates
a.       Liaisons relationship with OASIS Privacy Management TC and ITUT (Abbie)
b.      P3wg outreach to corporate CPOs (Robin/Darrell)
c.       Privacy policy rights vs. new technology Terms Of Service (Jeff)
3.      Approve minutes from previous meeting
4.      Liaison w/HIAWG and IAWG (Jeff)
5.      Tracking list of Regulatory Activities and Call for Papers on wiki (Mark)
6.      Privacy news updates
a.       NASPO support
b.      Hansen Privacy Terminology (Trent)
c.       Privacy concerns regarding National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace
7.      Strategic foci reports
a.       Privacy Module (Trent, Robin, Colin S)
b.      Privacy Management Framework (Mark)
c.       Rosetta Stone document (Robin)
d.      Collaboration w/IAWG on LOA and Privacy Agreements/Privacy Module white paper (Colin S)
e.       Managing Liaison w/SC27 & other standards bodies (Robin, Colin W, Abbie)
f.        Enhancing Certificate/Signature Semantics (Robin)
g.       Privacy Risk Assessment (Jeff)
h.       Standard Privacy Policy
i.         Consent and Anti-patterns
j.        Identifiers in Public Sector e-Procurement
k.      Space/Time Data and Identity position paper
l.         Pro-active Privacy Scan of other KI groups
m.     Government Assurance Levels White Paper
n.       Observatory on Identity/Policy Initiatives
8.      All other business
9.      Update Roll Call
10.  Review Action Items

Apologies

1. Jeff new outline - asked if there was interest

2. Motion to approved minutes - no opposed

3. Liason with IAWS - Meeting 12 September  - is a leadership call to discuss liason and agree with a way forward.

4. Tracking a list of regulatory

5. NASPO Discussion - Abbie attended the Naspo meetings, supports the effort, although there is mixed support and resistence.  Collin and Bob put a proposal together that needs to be presented to the leadership council..  Abbie suggested that this should be a priority for KI.  Describes the process NASPO has gone through,  it now has a charter and is going forward and is a going concern needing input from KI.  There is a need for a 10K investment by KI.

There is no disagreement about P3 backing the effort to the leadership council.  Questions about the priority and urgency of this item.

6. Hansen - Privacy Language -

Susan discussed post send to the list on this topic, a lot of discussion happend on the ITU-T list. Colin discusses this (920) as embarrassing and that we can send some input forward.

Action Item: Response from group on Hansen Language.

7. NSTIC - KI submitted the comments

Strategic FOCI

- SC27 - Colin -Meeting in Berlin Oct 10. 1199 - committee draft 3 - Colin Action Item will send documents to people on list.

- Digital Notice - Discussion of need for digital notice and the opportunity to provide  P3 comments.

- of most import info is the use of digital notice for subject access requests and transparency for the end service user. proposal to use DN as a requirement for updateing.



2. Action Item updates

a.       Liaisons relationship with OASIS Privacy Management TC and ITUT (Abbie) - Not Done
b.       P3wg outreach to corporate CPOs (Darrell)  - Removed Robin from this action item, then discussed with Anna S to reach out to Privacy Professional Community Congress in Nov 29 and 30th in Paris.
c.       Privacy policy rights vs. new technology Terms Of Service (Jeff) Not done yet (maybe)
4.      Liaison w/HIAWG and IAWG (Jeff) -  Difficult to setup a time to create liaison - Action Anna move to create a doodle poll for September. 
5.      Tracking list of Regulatory Activities and Call for Papers on wiki (Action Mark) - Discussed adding this to the wiki, there is no objections so Mark will pick this up with Anna T
6.       Smart Card Alliance pre-conference workshop demo (Joni/Anna) - This has been overcome by events and this is no longer happening
7.      KI Fall Meeting in Paris for joint session w/IAwg & HIAwg (Joni/Anna)  - P3 is in there for a session but I/HAWG is not attending so this is not moving forward.
8.       NASPO support - Abbie - nothing on this yet
9.      Hansen Privacy Terminology (Trent)  - paper sent to multiple list for feedback yesterday (11th of Aug)  - would be a good time provide feedback from P3 - Idea to shoot for the list to read the RFC and send comments to the list for discussion in the next call.  Action Trent to send to list with this instruction.
10.    NSTIC Update - There is an update for the Pilots to be sent for Aug 19th to NSTIC.  Joni invites anyone who would like to be involved to email her, she will add to the list.  Discussed a P3 response, Abbie suggest discussion on the call for issues - Mentions - Bank type of response.   Improve the application of the principles, and a NSTIC (#1400-)
11.      Kantara Initiative at UK EEMA (Abbie, Robin) - Item is being dropped from the Agenda

3. Approve minutes from previous meeting

Approve minutes from July 15 - motion seconded, and approved.

4. Conferences

Action: Update time change to Thursday on event Matrix.

4. Subgroup Reports

Privacy Framework (Trent) - New title - White Paper Calling for the development of a privacy framework - This is tied to credential life-cycle - A new section  of what is in scope and out of scope (#1488) -

5. All Other Business

Upcoming workshop on privacy by W3C - in September Mark will be keeping intouch with that effort on an on-going basis.

6. Review Action Items

ACTION ITEMS

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