UMA telecon 2021-10-21
UMA telecon 2021-10-21
Date and Time
Primary-week Thursdays 06:30am PT; Secondary-week Thursdays 10:00am PT
Screenshare and dial-in: https://zoom.us/j/99487814311?pwd=dTAvZi9uN0ZmeXJReWRrc1Zycm5KZz09
United States: +1 (224) 501-3316, Access Code: 485-071-053
See UMA calendar for additional details: http://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/display/uma/Calendar
Agenda
Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2021-09-09, UMA telecon 2021-09-16, UMA telecon 2021-09-23, UMA telecon 2021-09-30, UMA telecon 2021-10-14
IIW closing thoughts
FHIR Vulnerability Review
AOB
Minutes
Roll call
Quorum: No
Approve minutes
Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2021-09-09, UMA telecon 2021-09-16, UMA telecon 2021-09-23, UMA telecon 2021-09-30, UMA telecon 2021-10-14
Deferred
IIW closing thoughts
(see initial thoughts from last weeks minutes)
a lot of SSI focus, main OAuth-y topics we're in relation to the interop/connection to SSI
FHIR Vulnerability Review
and how UMA could address, maybe a 1-2 page position
Summary of articles: a white-hat security company (https://approov.io/) have looked at some health care mobile applications that access FHIR apis. Patients were authenticating against the API/EHR, however the applications were able to access all FHIR data regardless of the authenticated user. There were also issues raised around static client credentials embedded in the mobile applications (public SMART on FHIR app using confidential client creds?)
no patient/RO segmentations, seems that any authenticated user could access the full API
coarse grained api access, no RO compartmentalization
want apps to conform to their requirements and protect data
want to avoid a 'shut down access' reactive response
Potential Outline:
summary of the issues found
assumed oauth/oidc api model being used
identity is often an invitation model for EHRs
present a uma architecture to show the fine grained RO resources
how that helps the FHIR API provider properly restrict access. only one patients at a time
direct responses to the 'Recommendations to FHIR API Owners"
use of high assurance identity
other uma benefits
multiple idps, don't make the FHIR API provider deal with authentication/identity. UMA AS is connection between identity/authN systems and the FHIR AuthZ
sharing and delegation to Bob
links to CARIN recommendations and app certification processes (eg as provided by AEGIS)
application of provider authZ setup to patient access
difference of patient/*.* (what they should've done) and user/*.* (what they did)
Patient empowerment group (hl7 group) is meeting and the article writer is presenting these findings.
Let's use confluence, Alec will create a page and move these notes over then share the link on the mailing list
AOB
Delegation Use Cases
pp2pi (protecting privacy to promote interoperability) use cases, can we schedule a time to review. Nancy has the documents but can't share them
there is existing delegation use-cases documents that we may refresh/update: eg https://patientcentricsolutions.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Files/Report_UMA_Business-Legal_Framework_and_Use_Cases.pdf
summarize how UMA can be used to support these use cases. Delegation is viewed as hard, but can be addressed by trying to solve it and considering the use-case
This will be the main topic for next weeks call
moving gdocs working docs to confluence, will create a working docs space in confluence to upload these docs
confluence has a 'import word doc' feature, need an approach for slide decks
Conference roundup
In person is coming back!
Identity North
HLTH: https://www.hlth.com/
in-person w/ 6000 people in attendance!
FIDO Authenticate
National Cyber Summit in Nashville
zero trust was a main topic
2500 people!
Topic Candidates (from previous week's telcon)
Delegation and Guardianship
Outcome of user stories discussion
PDP architecture includes the concept of governance registry/discovery
TOIP/SSI are starting to define this ecosystem function
ANCR records update
Privacy as Expected/ANCR update : 2/3 weeks out (Sal?)
Attendees
As of October 26, 2020, quorum is 5 of 9. (Michael, Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Alec, Eve, Steve)
Voting:
Eve
Alec
Domenico
Non-voting participants:
Scott G, working with Healthcare team at Forgerock
Nancy
Vladimir
Scott
Regrets:
Steve