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2023-01-18 Meeting notes


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Voting (4 of 8 required for quorum)

Participant

Attending

1

Aronson, Marc

Yes

2

Davis, Peter

3

D'Agostino, Salvatore

Yes

4

Hodges, Gail

Yes

5

Jones, Thomas

Yes

6

Krishnaraj, Venkat

7

Thoma, Andreas

Yes

8

Wunderlich, John

Yes

Non-Voting

Participant

Attending

1

Auld, Lorrayne

2

Balfanz, Dirk

3

Chaudhury, Atef

Yes

4

Brudnicki, David

5

Dutta, Tim

6

Flanagan, Heather

Yes

7

Fleenor, Judith

8

Glasscock, Amy

9

Gropper, Adrian

10

Hughes, Andrew

11

Jordaan, Loffie

Yes

12

LeVasseur, Lisa

13

Lopez, Cristina Timon

14

Snell, Oliver

15

Stowell, Therese

16

Tamanini, Greg

17

Vachino, Maria

18

Whysel, Noreen

19

Williams, Christopher

Other attendees

Goals

  • Check-in on work progress

  • Review draft outline and status of writing tasks

Discussion items (AKA Agenda)

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  • Start the meeting.

  • Call to order.

  • Approve minute

  • Approve agenda

John Wunderlich 

Called to order: 13:01 ET

Quorum reached

Minutes approved:

5 min.

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John Wunderlich2024-05-08 Meeting notes

See updated Biometric Proofing on device update (previously assigned to Tom Jones )

  • see updates to the Implementor’s Guidance Report Verifiers)

40 min.

Draft Report Discussion

John Wunderlich 

Report from Implementor’s Report sub-group


Notes:

  • Verifier section

    • John has revised the wording to the framing section for Verifiers to start establishing a virtuous circle tieing vendors to verifier

    • Each subsection now has an explanation of the principle, then a descriptive use case example, then an italicized version of the requirement

      • What are the requirements in italics? Why do we need more than what’s in the explanation? The requirement only applies to the example; we’re not trying to write the requirements for everything. This document is about guidelines, not formal recommendations. Consider explicitly explaining the use of italics (a “how to read this document” at the start of the doc)

      • for UC2 - it seems to describe a mechanism for unlocking the data (biometric proofing), but doesn’t touch on what data is released. Is that correct? Yes. Should this be more purpose and field driven? Why these use cases? They represent three major buckets of problems / categories of scenarios (data + field focused, device focused, and relationship focused). Should we be explicit that thinking through any one example, implementer needs to consider all of the categories of scenarios covered in UC1-3. Atef to draft text.

    • Data Minimization: but UC1 talks about data retention. Is that what we want? Minimization is more than just the collection; it’s also about use, sharing, retention, etc. For each purpose of processing, data minimization is a requirement across the lifecycle for that purpose. Perhaps UC1 could cover the processing instead of the retention?

      • If data minimization includes all processing, do we need separate principles for retention and collecting? We are inheriting the principles as articulated by ISO. We might need a better explanation to distinguish them.

    • Use, Retention, and Disclosure: perhaps this needs to be the more granular one than Data Minimization?

    • The verifier shouldn’t have to trust the device, they should trust the issuer. Trying to figure out how to trust the device is turtles all the way down. Need to distinguish whether the device is part of the trust chain or not. As an example, we do trust the iPhone in many ways, including to do payment verification via biometrics. Some debate whether the trust is about the transmission. or whether it’s more than that. The issuer must test the device to establish the necessary level of trust (part of the mdoc).

    • Privacy compliance - need to be more clear about who the documentation is for; it isn’t just about documenting the law/regulation.

    • Group requested to offer suggested changes via Suggestion mode in the new doc

5 min.

Government-issued digital credentials and the privacy landscape WP updatte

Heather Flanagan (Unlicensed)

Requirements Review

John Wunderlich

Pending


Other Business


Adjourn



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