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These are DRAFT LC Minutes and have not yet been approved by the LC.approved 28-July-2012 call |
LC telecon 2012-06-20
Date and Time
- Date: Wednesday, 20 June 2012
- Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart)
- Call-in toll-free number: 1-866-203-0920
- Call-in number: 1-206-445-0056
- Conference Code: 5423695925#
- International Dial-In Numbers
Agenda
- Roll Call
- Approve 2012-05-09 Minutes
- Administration:
- Executive Director report
- Action Item Review
- Quarterly Reports
- LC Vice-Chair Vote
- Discussion
- AMDG report discussion
- By-Laws & OPs
- Identity & Attribute combined group coordination (P3WG, HIAWG, IAWG, AMDG)
- KI position paper: NSTIC Steering Group Formation v0.2
- WG Updates
- BoT Liaison Representative Update
- AOB
- Adjourn
Attendees
- Pete Palmer
- Myisha Frazier-McElveen
- Patrick Curry
- John Bradley
- Bob Pinheiro
- Colin Soutar
- Tom Smedinghoff
- Colin Wallis
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Apologies:
- Eve Maler
- Joni Brennan
Minutes & Notes
Administration: Approve 2012-05-09 Minutes
No discussion: Motion to approve the minutes by Bob Pinheiro, seconded by Colin Wallis - minutes pass by unanimous consent
Administration: Executive Director report
Joni unavailable at this time
Administration: Action Item Review
Action | Assigned To | Status | Description | Comments |
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20120425-02 | Heather Flanagan | In Progress | collect and coordinate input on changes to make to the operating agreement | Discussion on list, discussion also later in this call |
20120425-03 | Joni Brennan | Open | Provide cohesive statement to LC regarding Kantara Mission for subsequent dissemination and discussion with WG | Need to follow up on next call |
20120509-01 | all LC | Open | Review the AMDG Final Report (sent to LC list 08-May) in prep for vote on 23-May | discussion later this call |
20120530-01 | Dervla O'Reilly | Complete | Contact Japan WG chair regarding LC voting participation | Removed as voting members |
| 20120530-02 | Pete Palmer | Open | One page position paper identifying the position on the identity assurance framework and assessor program should be put on equal footing for RFP for health and human services | Sent out draft to list 2012-06-20; will send out an update later this week |
| 20120530-03 | Colin Soutar | OTE | Solicit feedback from NSTIC DG regarding industry classification and how Kantara should participate in NSTIC | Overcome by events (draft paper from Joni on KI NSTIC position paper) |
| 20120530-04 | Patrick Curry, Colin Wallis, Joni Brennan, Ken Dagg | In Progress | Come up with first pass of industry classification and Venn diagram | Draft out to list for discussion |
| 20120530-05 | Heather Flanagan | Open | Send out e-vote regarding accepting AMDG report as a Kantara document | Need to have discussion first |
New Action Items
Action | Assigned To | Status | Description | Comments |
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Administration: Quarterly Reports
Q2 reports due: 31 July, 2012
- Currently only ones overdue are: Information Sharing WG and Open Source Support WG
Administration: LC Vice-Chair Vote
- Nomination: Colin Soutar
- motion to acclaim Colin Soutar as LC Vice-Chair by John Bradley; seconded by Patrick Curry; no objection, motion passed
Discussion:
AMDG Report:
Is the work described in this Recommendation something Kantara should be doing?
Should a new working group be created around this Recommendation?
Is there another Working Group already in existence that can/should take on this work?
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This seems like a sensible set of directions; will need to bring back the Charter for discussion so we can get the WG in to existence; time frame for that
By-Laws & OPs
8.1.1 Member
any entity that has completed the application forms, satisfied the objective membership criteria for the Organization, executed a copy of the Member Agreement, and paid the appropriate Membership Fee as established by the Board of Trustees. A Member may be an individual, corporation, partnership, join venture, trust, limited liability company, business association, governmental entity or other entity.
Member benefits include:
* Access to non-public/confidential drafts through the Kantara Initiative liaison agreements and relationships
1. I don't recall there being a confidentiality clause in the Kantara membership agreement that is the flow-through of our (Kantara's) obligation to third parties. We may consider adding a clause in the membership agreement to this effect.
* Eligibility for positions on the Leadership Council
2. Is this true for members that are not Officers of an WG/DG?
* Listing of Member Logo on web roster
* Ability to sponsor Work/Discussion Group formation
* Ability to request directed funding without overhead
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There is no requirement that an Officer of a WG or DG be a Kantara Member, so the "Eligibility for positions on the Leadership Council" is not accurate
More By-Laws & OPs
Operating Procedures - Nominations
Procedures for handling nominations to any leadership position are not laid out in the OP. Are there any categories of Members/Participants that are NOT allowed to be nominated in to a position? Should there be a minimum nomination period? Can anyone submit a nomination? Need to clarify these things.
3. As per my comment 2 above.
Caveat may be the Board of Trustees liaison - they must be members; no other leadership position requires any particular category of membership or participation
More By-Laws & OPs
4. I’d like to suggest that the following text be considered with regards to voting. The changes I have suggested would be generally consistent with operating procedures in SDO’s; would give some notice to the delinquent Participant of the impending action; and would avoid any perception of the ability for members to “vote hop”. Even though we have not suffered from this at all, the perception of the ability to attain voting rights “at will” in light of an “interesting” agenda item, I believe would be better removed, and is more respectful of the active body of the membership.
3.7
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All Participants present at a WG meeting are voting members of the WG. For the purpose of maintaining a reasonable ability to achieve Quorum, any Participant in a WG who fails to attend two consecutive meetings of the WG may, at the discretion of the Chair, be re-classified as a non-voting member. Voting member status may be reacquired by attending a meeting of the WG. In the case of an electronic vote of the WG, if the electronic vote is initiated while a Participant is in non-voting status, the Participant may not vote in that electronic vote.
PROPOSED
All Participants present at a WG meeting are voting members of the WG, unless they have elected to be non-voting Participants. For the purpose of ensuring an active membership base is maintained, any Participant in a WG who fails to attend two consecutive meetings of the WG may, at the discretion of the Chair, be re-classified as a non-voting member. Such re-classification shall be stated in the agenda of the meeting in which it takes affect. Voting member status may be re-acquired by attending a meeting of the WG, in which case the voting member status is effective at the conclusion of the meeting. In the case of an electronic vote of the WG, if the electronic vote is initiated while a Participant is in non-voting status, the Participant may not vote in that electronic vote.
If adopted, this revised text would likely be similarly appropriate for clause 2.6 relating to the LC.
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As long as there isn't automatic reinstatement - they have to ask for the voting rights back; "upon request of the Participant"
More By-Laws & OPs
By-Laws - IPR and Copyright
May want to review whether it is reasonable for KI to continue with the model of WG/DG deciding their own IPR. Perhaps have a base IPR policy explicitly mentioned in the By-laws and allow WG/DG to do something different if explained/required?
CW: Noting that no-one has commented on this which I find surprising. I guess no comment means the status quo continues which I think is more transparent than the baseline/exception alternative.
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Next step - revise text based on conversation, post to list to judge consensus, and have Joni take this to the Trustees
Identity & Attribute combined group coordination (P3WG, HIAWG, IAWG, AMDG)
Leadership to meet Aug 6, general participation Aug 7, 8, hosted at SurescriptSurescripts; mark your calendars if you are interested in attending
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This may be turning in to a general KI face-to-face meeting, since it covers so much of the membership anyway; there are several hotels within walking distance of the offices in next to Crystal City, in Arlington, VA
KI position paper: NSTIC Steering Group Formation v0.2
No time; Will continue on list and/or next call
WG Updates
No time
BoT Liason Report
No time
AOB
Note that next meeting is scheduled for 4 July, 2012 - move or cancel?
Adjourn
Next Meeting
- Date: Wednesday, 4 July, 2012
- Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart)