UMA telecon 2010-06-24

Date and Time

• Thursday, 24 Jun 2010 at 9:00am-10:30am PT (time chart)
  • Skype line "C": +9900827042954214
  • US: +1-201-793-9022 | Room Code: 295-4214

Agenda

• Administrative
  • Roll call
  • Approve minutes of 2010-06-17 meeting
  • Action item review
  • xml2rfc/I-D/github/bitbucket status and issues
• Focus meeting report and discussion
  • Hold another focus meeting on 30 Jun 2010?
  • How are we doing on our "rough-out Step 1 by end of June" goal?
• Dynamic client registration
• RRAPI
• Third-party-asserted claims, "identity tokens", trust model
• AOB

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• Maciej Machulak
• Joe Andrieu
• Christian Scholz
• Tom Holodnik

Minutes

Roll call

Aaron was invited by Mark Lizar to join. He is an attorney in D.C. He is the privacy director for the Liberty Coalition. He is running a National ID Watch project. And he's also spending effort on Privacy Commons, which has a user-centric rather than a data- or corporate-centric.

Quorum was not reached.

Approve minutes of 2010-06-17 meeting

Deferred due to lack of quorum.

Action item review

• 2009-12-03-4 Eve Open Add terms-negotiation scenarios to Scenarios document.
• 2010-05-27-3 Eve Pending Find and distribute info on the new proposal for OAuth signing. It seems to have been broken out from the core OAuth spec.
• 2010-05-27-4 Eve Pending Ask Dave Crocker for help with Step 1 user stories. No progress.
• 2010-06-17-1 Christian, Eve Open Work on the conversion of the core spec and the dynamic registration spec to xml2rfc. In process.

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We acknowledge that there may be arbitrary numbers of intermediaries in between the end-to-end parties to an UMA-forged contract, and their pairwise terms of service may be looser than the UMA contract, thus "leaking" value. Our discussion at IIW taught us that the advent of modern trust frameworks may help here, if we can assure that all the UMA-compliant parties interacting together are members of the desired framework? Further reading for those interested in the legal subteam discussions:

• Legal Considerations doc (fledgling)
• Comments on doc from Jeff Stollman, and much further list discussion
• Notes from early discussion with Tom Smedinghoff (expand the "quoted text")
• IIW discussion led by Jeff S

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Randall wants identities that are both strong and cheap. It seems a bit too early to force a solution here, but Eve hopes we're getting close to the "Identity Singularity" and need to pay close attention to see which emergent solutions solve our requirements.

Next Meetings

• ??? Possible focus group meeting on Wednesday, 30 Jun 2010, at 7-8am PT? (time chart)
• WG telecon on Thursday, 1 Jul 2010, at 9-10:30am PT (time chart)