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Information Sharing GROUP Teleconference

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  • Joe Andrieu
  • Iain Henderson
  • Mark Lizar
  • J. Trent Adams
  • Eve Maler

Meeting has quorum.
Prior meeting minutes approved (19th July)

Apologies

Agenda

  1. Attendance
  2. Prior Action Item Review
  3. New Business
  4. Literature Review
  5. Personal RFP
  6. Action Item Review

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  • Joe will follow up when we need to hold our next election.   --  NEXT ELECTION SHOULD CONCLUDE BY OCTOBER 1
  • Iain will think about IP for standard agreement (will submit application to UK gov for 7/15/ submission date), and will hand off core IP from his previous work to this group. New target date by end of July (Government delays). Proposal/RF Funding will be sent to UK Gov, follow up next week.updated, TSB funding bid will now be submitted 16th Aug, decision likely by end August
  • Trent will check with Lucy on use of ISOC logo on the report.
  • Mark will submit report to the list, will consult with Iain re accompanying email.

HOLDING:

  • Joe will send an invitation to this discussion out to Parties listed; in Apr 19 minutes - waiting until we get IP agreement settled - in progress, should hear back this week.
  • Mark will forward this invite to the P3 group - waiting until we get IP agreement settled.
  • Kick-start User Agreement Sub-group after we hear back on proposal to UK Government.
  • Iain will follow up with non-attending members. Done.
  • Iain will update the report with his notes. In progress, will need a review from Mark & Judi, then out to group for review. Done, pending discussion this call.
  • Personal RFP work by Joe continues - continuing.
  • Joe will follow up when we need to hold our next election - pending.
  • Iain will follow up with Doc last week in June re: CRM+VRM meeting in Boston. Aug 26-27, invitation only to large companies w large customer bases, looking for sponsors. Iain and Joe would both like to present.
  • All: read current government proposal, wrt do we want to comment on this as a group?
  • Iain will think about IP for standard agreement (will submit application to UK gov for 7/15/ submission date), and will hand off core IP from his previous work to this group. Also Iain will write up a more formalized proposal to Leadership Committee. Iain wants to get through procurement before submitting proposal to LC. New target date 7/15/10 (Government delays). Proposal/RF Funding will be sent to UK Gov, follow up next week.
3. New Business

Gov proposal update from Mark: Whole proposal is about creating an identity eco-system. Related to MS Info card, extention of OIX work. Intent to work with different government agencies. DHS project, driven by Whitehouse. No basis for concern in objections raised in comments. Top-down ("pie in the sky"), had all the right words in it, would open up work for ISWG. Observed that it looked like a Second Life Lab experiment.

Eve: is user-centric, also very Government-centric as perceived necessary model. Implementation plan seems relatively harmless, drive standards as it relates to Gov use cases. Not a recommendation for national ID card.

Joe's understanding is that this is input into procurement for build-out at different agencies (marching orders). Eve: will affect procurement, also work being done by other agencies. No action item.

4. Literature Review

Mark released his current draft version of the work report. Iain gave background. Next step: craft an email to list, explains background and requests feedback by Friday, 30 July. Once group approves report, goes to Leadership Council for approval; once accepted, it's distributed. Extra steps for continuing with recommendations.

Mark points out that ISOC logo on front page as sponsors, approval? Trent will take this up on ISOC side.

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  • .  -- TALKED WITH LUCY. She's looking into it.

HOLDING:

  • Iain/ Joe to work through options to present PRFP, Report and Trust Framework activity at the CRM Plus VRM event at Harvard on 26th, 27th August.
3. New Business

4. Literature Review

Who is our audience?

VRM Community? Enterprise? Internal to Kantara & ISOC?

Thoughts from ISOC: Research would be unbiased and audience would be "us" i.e., those working on infosharing technologies. Not so much regulators. To give those of us working in this space a grounding of what's gone on before. (Which might change a bit if we want to reach out to a wider group.)

Expectation that the initial research report not to come in with a pre-baked bias. Trent thinks we did that. We're ok.

If we're going to reach out a wider audience, a bit of information sharing commentary/advocacy, as a "work group report" based on the research--as opposed to the research itself. 

In preparing the report, based on the research, there was definitely an effort to focus our attention on those items that illustrate the key theses of ISWG. Namely, an individual-centric perspective.

"Based on a literature review funded by ISOC."

Perhaps our audience is a wider group with a similar definition of "those working on information sharing technologies", extended to include folks who may not yet be a part of Kantara or ISOC, but who are building this emerging architecture. A secondary audience is regulators, who should understand what is happening in the technical context.

  • Kantara Folks
  • ISOC Folks
  • Developers
  • Technical integrators

What change do we want to effect?

Mark's intention was to build a foundation document.

Given who we want to reach and how we want to effect them, that will drive cleaning up the logic flow and definitions.

As an introduction to information sharing, we want to capture the motivation so people can understand why they should care. The essence of the report is that a bunch of smart people are working on a hard problem together; here's why and here's what we're trying to do about it.

As a foundation document. ISWG as a change agent. Focusing on VPI as a distinct sharing activity. Why that's important.

Change we want to effect:

  1. People will think about how they volunteer information and about all the information they volunteer and the value of that information.
  2. People will understand & leverage the research in their own work and their own writings
  3. Utilize a standard ontology for discussing common cause amongst stakeholders
  4. Relate their own work to information sharing and transform their work to be more greatly enabled by information sharing
  5. Realize that these things are real, not just future-looking possibilities (because of specific examples).

We could be revolutionary, but we shouldn't. Rather we can paint how our work is an evolutionary advance.

5. Personal RFP

Working on narrative sequence from prose above (in Joe's MSWord doc). Reviewed document, Joe asked questions and added information as discussed.

Mark to send work on 'standard in notice' (what's in the notice, where can it be found etc) to the group.

Joe to integrate feedback on PRFP/ sharing data with manufacturer discussion.

6. Action Items Review
  1. Joe Andrieu - Post to mailing list by 8/16 to start election conversation
  2. Trent will check with Lucy on use of ISOC logo on the report.
  3. Personal RFP work by Joe continues - continuing
  4. Joe Andrieu - Revise Lit Review Report by Wednesday AM
  5. Iain Henderson - Add examples to Lit Review Report by Friday

Next Regular Meeting

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26 July 16th August 2010
6am Hawaii, 9am Pacific, Midday Eastern, 5pm UK
Skype: +9900827042954214
US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
UK Dial-In: +44 (0) 8454018081
Room Code: 2954214

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