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UMA telecon 2017-09-14

Date and Time

Agenda

  • Roll call

  • Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2017-08-03 and UMA telecon 2017-08-17 

  • What's happening now and next steps
  • WG schedule
  • Other items on the WG docket
  • AOB

Minutes

Roll call

Quorum was not? reached.

Approve minutes

Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2017-08-03 and UMA telecon 2017-08-17: tbsDeferred.

Discussion of "union of resource-mapped" editorial issue

Justin advocates removing the non-normative parenthetical with the ∪ resource in it. We have consensus to do so, as long as this can remain in the realm of a free editorial fix prior to next publication as part of the V2.0 process.

What's happening now and next steps

  • Colin/Andrew and the LC is are taking up the question of certification (for either All-Member Ballot Let's or some kind of Public Review of the deltas)
  • Shortly we'll gear up for GOTV
    • How shortly depends on getting an answer from Kantara. Eve has prepared a Google Sheets spreadsheet so we can do outreach
  • In anticipation of passage, what education/outreach activities make sense? what interop activities make sense?
    • Pre-Recommendation timeframe
    • Post-Recommendation
    • IIW timeframe 
      • This is the only timeframe we know for sure: Oct 17-19. That's not long from now! Eve can't attend, but has colleagues going (and ForgeRock is one of the sponsors). ForgeRock and Gluu would presumably have products to try out by then. Trying out an interop would depend on some kind of "standard API with resource and scope documentation" like we recommend in the specs.
      • Mike has been advocating informal interop testing before formal conformance testing with a test harness. Justin describes how that happened: People published endpoints and OIDF kept track of the results with published matrices. It was pretty complicated.
      • The first step would be identifying an independently implemented AS, RS, and C and try to get them to work with one another.
      • Who's attending IIW? George; Justin hopes to; Sal hopes to; Eve is a no.
  • Look at UMA2 logo options at this point?
    • We looked at the proposals from Domenico and Justin and worked together to come up with a direction that Justin will execute.

AI: Eve: Reach out to known UMA2 implementers and see what entity role coverage they have.

AI: Domenico: Send Justin his additional logo drafts as fodder.

WG schedule

  • Week of Sep 18: No WG meeting Sep 21, no Legal meeting Sep 22
  • Week of Sep 25: WG meeting will be held Sep 28, Legal meeting will be held Sep 29

To reiterate: No meetings next week!

Other items on the WG docket

  • Pedro's flow suggestions
    • Justin remarks that if you're talking to the token endpoint without a ticket, you're just doing OAuth already (presumably with an existing grant, depending on details). He cautions not to accept all suggestions, which is what OAuth1 did. UMA2 is a lot cleaner and it would be a shame to load it up again. This is what the "extension" issue label is about.
  • Other issues labeled "extension"
  • Liaison with Consent and Information Sharing WG for some items?

Anyone interested in consent receipt-related topics at all? Eve and George (related to the third bullet).

AI: Eve: Create an issue for the first bullet so Pedro's suggestion doesn't get lost.

AI: Eve: Discuss liaison activity with CIS WG.

Attendees

As of 7 Mar 2017, quorum is 4 of 7. (Domenico, Sal, Andi, Maciej, Eve, Mike, Cigdem)

...

  1. Domenico
  2. Sal
  3. Eve
  4. Cigdem

Non-voting participants:

  • James
  • tbsJustin

...

  • George