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20 Aug

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  • Per distributed agenda

Discussion items

Mari S.-- PatientIDnow.org - coalition to remove ban on national medical identifier. No cost to join. Andrew, Dir of Fed Affairs-- since March with CHIME. Resource to support ONC in gathering info on patient identity issues.  

Former user (Deleted) suggests replacing current CHIME Website use of the term  "patient matching" with something like "linking" or "securely connecting" to avoid negative privacy connotations.  
TimeItemWhoNotes
5 MinCall to order and roll callFormer user (Deleted)
  • Quorate
  • Recording!
5 MinApproval of draft minutes of Aug 8Sept 17, 2020Former user (Deleted)
  • Approved
10 mins

Noteworthy news and member activities

Carmen Smiley replied to Tom Jones about the CMS timeline (Covid delayed) to provide data to Hospitals]. It specifically applies to states. is there a good chance at least the dates will apply to hospitals? install complete 2021-01-01 enforcement starts 2021-07-01? I collected the data I thought was interesting here.

https://wiki.idesg.org/wiki/index.php/Native_Apps_for_US_Healthcare#Context (Also see attachment) Is there anything you (or anyone else) would change or add on that page? The one thing that your committee could (should) entertain is providing guidance about the third-party application registration process as I don't see anyone else doing that now.

Martin Smith (Unlicensed) asks if Colin could include in his presentation a clarification that apps (products) should be certified (vs. "developers.") Carmen says that is in fact the intent of the language. Group goes on to discuss idea of a real-time registry of certified products. Agreed that this is desirable and KI might develop such a service if funding can be identified.

Tom Jones discusses Native Apps. per link in agenda. "Native apps" are often crappy. Need SAC developed as a basis for certification of medical apps. Certification process would generally look like current IAWG/ARB process for certifying conformance with Kantara IAF, but would add registry to support real-time trustworthy certification of conformance with the app SAC for medical apps.   

20 minsHIAWG input for Colin's presentation to ONC on Aug 31, and other submissions related to HHS/ONC report to Congress on patient identifiers.  

Tom Jones  emailed to the list a draft paper before the meeting.

Former user (Deleted) displays several minor edits to Tom Jones / Former user (Deleted) and group reviews draft, in anticipation of submission to ONC. Decision. Tom J and Cath. S will revise in light of discussion and circulate and then submit to ONC. 


10 mins

Former user (Deleted) Discussion and updates with guests from CHIME  

Former user (Deleted) –  introduces CHIME guests

Former user (Deleted) got call from Mary (question) @ CHIME Invited comments on Foster Bill. Tom Jones notes lack of HHS participation mentioned in the bill. 

Former user (Deleted) RE: COVID testing – an IAM-type problem with home tests is lack of proof that binds results to testee.


Former user (Deleted) --reviews recent KI developments re: Safe Biopharma and successors/partners, etc. Result is mutual recognition of respective areas of competence for certification –KI for non-PKI assurance.  

Former user (Deleted) Also mentions blog reviewing "framework" legislation initiatives in multiple countries. 


30 minsJim Kragh's Workgroup draft of Identity and mobile support. See 2 attachments (JK and TES) including my suggested edits to Jim's draft. The intent is to synchronize the two Workgroup's products.

Jim Kragh Attachments sent with today's Agenda.  

Discussion of the FIRE drafts and Dr. Tom's comments. Jim says some parts of the draft (eg, Heading V. – Recourse.) have not yet been expanded but will be. Tom Jonessays the FIRE priority is on a framework for consumers, not organizations. 

Jim Kragh asks group to vote on tentative approval of the draft as is. Former user (Deleted) says OK to accept as second draft recognizing it's not final. Jim Kragh asks if HIAWG has any other additions to the draft.Martin Smith (Unlicensed) and Former user (Deleted) ask that heading V. be expanded. 

Former user (Deleted) reminds all that the IPR rules between FIRE and HIAWG are slightly different so that might complicate anything to be developed jointly. 

5 mins

New/other business:



None.


5 minsAction followupsfollow-ups, next meeting date, and adjourn
  • Sept 3 Oct 15 next HIAWG. 

Action items

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  • Agenda to include Foster Bill comments
  1. Former user (Deleted) to finalize written ONC input for send Dr Maas presentation at Aug 31 and circulate to group for last-minute look, and then submit on behalf of HIAWG. Also Tom Jones will post final as submitted to HIAWG File List page All to provide any input to ONC event to the HIAWG list. 
  2. Former user (Deleted) for Aug 31 Kantara presentation to ONC.   to include discussion of Foster Bill in next HIAWG meeting agenda.