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draft draft draft... Kantara FOO GROUP Teleconference

Date and Time

  • Date: Wednesday, December 2nd, 2009
  • Time: 1pm PDT |4pm EDT | 10 CET

Attendees

  • Colin Wallis, DIA, Government of New Zealand (Chair)
  • Fulup Ar Foll, Sun Microsystems (Vice Chair)
  • Kyle Meadors, Drummond Group
  • Terry McBride, US GSA
  • Bob Sunday, Government of Canada
  • Bill Young, DIA, Government of New Zealand&nbsp
  • Shin Adachi, NTT
  • Bauck Sverre, DIFI Norway
  • Sion Camilleri
  • Jack Leipold, US Social Security Administration
  • Patricia Wiebe, Province of British Columbia, Canada
  • Brett McDowell, Kantara ED
  • Joni Brennan, Kantara Staff

Apologies

  • Scott Cantor, Internet 2

Agenda

1) Roll call for Quorum determination  [1] 

2) Approve Las Vegas (F2F) Minutes, October and November Minutes [2]

3) Review status of Action Items Summary [3]

4) Review Officer Election status

5) eGov SAML 2.0 Profile V2 prep  (please review email threads re this)

6) Discuss: eGov Profiles of OID and IC project - next steps: Step 1 Gap Analysis of US ICAM OID and US ICAM IC. Community volunteers please

7) LC and BoT updates (Incl. Assurance Review Board, Interop Review Board)

8) RSA planning - do we get involved? Concordia?, a panel? Call for other potential activities beyond international eGov profiles

9) Kantara F2F Portland - planning

10) AOB..

Minutes

1. Roll Call

Summary:

  • 8 out of 14 voting members (quorum) for Minutes only
  • 4 non voting members
2. Approve Minutes

Summary:

  • Attendance of Bill Young in the middle of the call allowed us to establish the quorum.
  • Colin moved to approve the three pending minutes to be approved per Joni's suggestion. Terry seconded.
  • The three minutes were unanimously approved
3. Review Status of Action Items Summary

http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/Action+Items+Summary

Summary:

  • 2009-11-04-01: Leave it open, still work in progress
  • 2009-11-04-03: Cannot get a login page without joining Orange. Fulup to talk with FT/Orange re a video or screen shots, to make it possible for non Orange customers to view.
  • 2009-11-04-02: Joni to follow up. Fulup will provide Joni with another contact (Peter Weiss?)
  • 2009-11-04-04: Joni to follow up
  • 2009-10-07-02: Leave open, DGI may be able to begin engagement shortly
  • 2009-09-16-01: Leave open. Soren-Peter not on call to give update
  • 2009-09-15-01: leave open but Terry will follow up Dave T's action
  • 2009-09-15-02: Overcome By Events now that the OIF JSC has released an RFI for this
  • 2009-09-15-05: Leave open. Is on the LC agenda this week.
4. Review Officer Election status

Fulup confirmed elected as a Vice Chair

5) eGov SAML 2.0 profile v2 preparation

Colin recognized the need to start preparation for that.

Kyle suggested at this time of the year, focus on discussion, start drafting on February, continue to develop on March April timeframe for the next certification opportunity.

Bob Sunday of Canada briefed that their first requirement production date late Spring next year Kyle responded to Colin's question why we did not include LoA last time.

At that time, the work was still in progress but not even final at SSTC, or among people like Scott Canter, Paul Madsen and Bob Mogan.

Discussion was ongoing around level of assurance vs metadata vs how to deal with certificates.

Colin updated that SSTC agreed to move it to CD just yesterday.

After the call, Bob kindly shared its URL at <http://wiki.oasis-open.org/security/SAML2IDAssuranceProfile>.

In response to Brett's question on the profile, Bob said that there would be a problem of comparison (of levels of assurance).  here is nothing written on the comparison of the level of the assurance (on the SSTC CD to be released).  EGov profile would play a role for proper interpretation into the profile.

He also mentioned Multilingual requirements would be important for Canada. 6) eGov Profiles of OID and IC project - next steps Colin briefed his view on IMI.  He showed some concerns that its use of SAML 1.1 token might restrict features Patricia mentioned British Colombia of Canada was developing IMI for BC  There were some further work to be done, especially for higher level assurance.

Terry Mcbriede said there was informal discussion to solve jointly between SAML, IMI and OID.  Issue was no standard way.  We do not have real solution at this moment while pilot is going on for OID.

He was not concerned much about SAML 1.1 token because the products which supports SAML 2.0 token usually handles 1.1 as well.

Fulup said still better to have 2.0 token if we have stringent and better interoperability.

Colin told us British Columbia of Canada, Netherlands, part of UK are looking at OID or IMI 7) Quick updates:

RFI for Trust framework from OID foundation: Due was yesterday on December 1, 2009.

ARB is composed of six members

In response to Colin's proposal to have a sync up with ARB, Brett suggested to think about scheduling, methodologies, etc for dialog after they have two meetings.  This suggestion seemed consensus at the meeting. 10) AOB

Due to the time constrains, Colin proposed to discuss agenda item 8 and

9 in the mailing list, to which everybody agreed. Meeting adjourned eight minutes past the hour.

Colin Wallis wrote:

>> Greetings all

>> 

>> Our monthly call is this Wednesday 2nd December.

>> 

>> We really really need quorum so we can put these outstanding minutes to rest.

>> 

>> And we have a lot of items to get through...


:-)  But please add others or raise them in Any Other Business.

>> 

>> As per discussion on the last call and with Beatrice, Kyle and

>> others, we will move back the call time 30 minutes so it starts 1pm

>> Pacific, 4pm Eastern, 10pm CET, 10am (Thurs) NZ.  (I know that's not

>> what the calendar says but I really did try to edit that - may need

>> staff)

>> 

>> Despite this being later for Europe, I'm given to believe attendance

>> may actually increase!:-)

>> 

>> Dial-In:

>> 

>>  *   Skype: +9900827044630912

>>  *   US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022

>>  *   Room Code: 4630912

>> 

>> 

>> Proposed agenda:

>> 

>> 1) Roll call for Quorum determination  [1] (can someone volunteer to

>> help with Minute taking please?)

>> 

>> 2) Approve Las Vegas (F2F) Minutes, October and November Minutes [2]

>> 

>> 3) Review status of Action Items Summary [3]

>> 

>> 4) Review Officer Election status

>> 

>> 5) eGov SAML 2.0 Profile V2 prep  (please review email threads re

>> this)

>> 

>> 6) Discuss: eGov Profiles of OID and IC project - next steps: Step 1

>> Gap Analysis of US ICAM OID and US ICAM IC. Community volunteers

>> please

>> 

>> 7) LC and BoT updates (Incl. Assurance Review Board, Interop Review

>> Board)

>> 

>> 8) RSA planning - do we get involved? Concordia?, a panel? Call for

>> other potential activities beyond international eGov profiles

>> 

>> 9) Kantara F2F Portland - planning

>> 

>> 10) AOB..

>> 

>> 

>> Relevant Links:

>> 

>> [1]

>> 

>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/Participant+Rost

>> er

>> 

>> [2]

>> 

>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/eGov+Meeting+-+2

>> 009-11-04

>> 

>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/eGov+Minutes+-+2

>> 009-10-07

>> 

>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/eGov+Meeting+-+2

>> 009-09-15

>> 

>> [3]

>> 

>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/eGov/Action+Items+Sum

>> mary

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