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Date

2017-04-20

Status of Minutes

DRAFT

Approved at: <<Insert link to minutes showing approval>>

Attendees

Voting

  • Andrew Hughes
  • Harri Honko
  • Jim Pasquale
  • Iain Henderson
  • Mark Lizar
  • John Wunderlich

 

Non-Voting

  • David Turner
  • Jens Kremer
  • Samuli 
  • Robert Lapes
  • Sal D'Agostino


Quorum Status

Meeting was quorate

 

 

Voting participants

Participant Roster (2016) - Quorum is 4 of 7 as of 2016-10-06

Iain Henderson, Mary Hodder, Harri Honko, MarkLizar, Jim Pasquale, John Wunderlich, Andrew Hughes

Discussion Items

Not enough attendees to conduct the meeting. Agenda items deferred to next week.

TimeItemWhoNotes
4 mins
  • Roll call
  • Agenda bashing
Former user (Deleted) 
1 min
  • Organization updates
All

Please review these blogs offline for current status on Kantara and all the DG/WG:

1 min
  • Status of Consent Receipt Specification v1
Former user (Deleted)
  • All Member Ballot is now open - closes on Monday, April 24, 2017
    • Reminders going out now 
15 min
  • Discuss myData team comments
Harri Honko

Note from prior meeting: myData EU-based lawyer commented that the CR v1.0 draft has elements that are based on UK/US Common Law, rather than civil codes (GDPR)

 

2017-04-20 notes:

  • Jens Kremer - has provided review comments on the v1.0 with respect to GDPR fit
    • Had done a related PhD recently
    • A review from an independent viewpoint - with no particular prior knowledge of the Kantara context
    • Consider this as an external perspective - from the possible viewpoint
  • Main issue might be that a dichotomy is starting to emerge between common law systems versus public law systems (state regulation, rights-based)
    • The CR work takes an individual centred /common law perspective - and also an Organizational perspective
      • This will look strange to an EU lawyer
      • Fundamental difference: 
        • Common law approach - the consent is not regulated - e.g. give the people the information and the people can agree on anything
        • Public law approach - this is regulated and not up to the participants to decide - there are absolutes - the person cannot agree to arbitrary conditions
          • This is grounded in the idea that privacy and data protection is a fundamental right - this is in contrast to taking a contract approach
    • It might be possible to create a specific profile that is constrained to the GDPR rules
      • This might be a case of reconsidering how the definitions are stated to ensure that they fit with the GDPR terminology (CR v1.0 uses ISO definitions)
  • Mark: the CR v1.0 is intended to be a minimum-viable specification that is intended to be extended
  • David
    • Jens has described things related to the consent process, and the CR is a record of that process
      • The consent process precedes the CR itself and is independent of the receipt itself
    • This is the same difficult topic the WG has worked through before
      • It is problematic to define the receipt format and then require all processes to output that format (smile)
  • Robert
    • The use of the word "Consent" might be problematic - it is an overloaded term
30 minDiscuss work backlog priorities for CR v1.1All

Consent Receipt v1.1 Work Backlog

  • Discussed items 1-11 on the CR v1.1 backlog list

 

Parked notes about v1.1 approach from previous meetings:

  • Mary
    • The caution about "Purposes lists" and "Sensitive data types" needs to be resolved - must be very cautious about how these are displayed to the user, especially if it's sensitive data - need to create recommendations
  • Mark
    • Need to set up a backlog - and define a work plan and schedule
    • Set a date for CR v1.1
    • Need to write guidance on spec usage
  • Need consensus on
    • Prioritization of backlog
    • Need to consider any issues that are used for GDPR implementation
    • The original agreement was to do 6-month epics
 

 

 

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