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h1. Kantara Initiative Privacy & Public Policy Teleconference

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h3. Date and Time

* *Date:* Thursday, 24 SEP, 2009
* *Time:* 08:00 PDT \| 11:00 EDT \| 16:00 UTC

h3. Meeting Minute Status
{note:title=Working Draft}This page is a Working Draft subject to further revision and has not yet been approved by the Privacy & Public Policy Work Group.

h3. Attendees

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# Iain Henderson
# Susan Landau
# Georgia Marsh
# Darrell Shull
# Jeff Stollman
# Randy vanderHoof



h3. Apologies

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# Iain Henderson
# Susan Landau
# Georgia Marsh
# Darrell Shull
# Jeff Stollman
# Randy vanderHoof



h3. Apologies


# Trent Adams
# Patrick Curry
# Fich Furr
# Robin Wilton



QUORUM was not achieved


h3. Agenda

# Roll Call
# Quorum Issue
# ICAM Report update
# US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Privacy Roundtable 07 DEC in Washington, DC
# Las Vegas Plenary Report
# Kantara Matrix of Mandates
# Collaboration site
# Comparison of US/UK Levels of Assurance
# Leveraging the Smart-Card Alliance Meeting at the end of October
# Vice-chair and Secretary nominations
# AOB
# Updated Roll Call

h3. Minutes

h5. 1. Roll Call

Summary:

* *Quorum not attained*

h5. 2. Quorum


Summary:

* ROBIN: *ACTION*: draft a letter to those not participating regarding Observer status
* JEFF: *ACTION*:  Distribute letter to those who are not participating

h5. 3. ICAM letter status

Summary:

* JEFF:  *ACTION:  * resubmit ICAM ballot after quorum issue is resolved
* No changes to current document

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# Trent Adams
# Patrick Curry
# Fich Furr
# Robin Wilton



QUORUM was not achieved


h3. Agenda

# Roll Call
# Quorum Issue
# ICAM Report update
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# Las Vegas Plenary Report
# Kantara Matrix of Mandates
# Collaboration site
# Comparison of US/UK Levels of Assurance
# Leveraging the Smart-Card Alliance Meeting at the end of October
# Vice-chair and Secretary nominations
# AOB
# Updated Roll Call

h3. Minutes

h5. 1. Roll Call

Summary:

* *Quorum not attained*

h5. 2. Quorum


Summary:

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* We will draft a Report to submit in response to the FTC's questions on privacy
** IAIN & JEFF:  *ACTION:*  draft straw-man response to questions 1 and 3
** SUSAN expressed concern that risk assessment at the data element level is too ambitious (Question 1 repsonse) to expect FTC to take action; she will consider whether she can develop a simpler approach to attain similar results
** discussed, but did not resolve, whether we would address need for consumer education to alert them to the risks.  This is not explicitly one of the FTC's questions, but address question 2 which asks for what consumers concerns about privacy are.  SUSAN suggested we come up with rules for educating consumers
** SUSAN:  *ACTION*:  sent out links to two papers:  one on how de-anonymization increases privacy risk and the other on using icons to simplify privacy preferences
** IAIN:  *ACTION*:  sent out link to BT privacy study
** RANDY:  has already submitted a panelist application on behalf of Smart-Card Alliance
** JEFF:  *ACTION*:  will submit a panelist application on behalf of P3
** SUSAN:  *ACTION*:  will check with Brett to determine if there are other Kantara plans to respond to FTC request to maintain alignment

h5. 5. Las Vegas Plenary report

* This was tabled until Robin is available on the next call

h3.


h5. 6. Creating Kantara Matrix of Mandates

* COLIN SOUTAR has recommended that a matrix be created summarizing the charters, IP policies, and call times for all Kantara groups
** We determined that this is a great idea, but should be a Kantara staff assignment, not a P3 task
** JEFF:  *ACTION*:  Jeff sent a note to Staff for consideration of implementing this idea

h3.


h5. 7. Collaboration Tools

* RANDY:  suggested using GoToMeeting to allow live editing of documents rather than email and version management
* RANDY:  *ACTION*:  make sure that this is being considered by Kantara as a Kantara-wide recommendation

h3.


h5. 8. Comparison of US & UK Levels of Assurance

* PATRICK CURRY:  has sent letter to UK seeking clarification of their view on comparability with US NIST's four levels of assurance.  He'll report when he gets a response.

h3.


h5. 9. Using Smart-Card Alliance meeting for Kantara face-to-face on East Coast


* RANDY:  Offered a room for Kantara, but no significant interest has been generated.  We are considering this item closed.  But Randy's offer remains in place if we find new value in holding a meeting at the SCA conference

h5. 10. Officer nominations

* DARRELL:  Offered to serve as Secretary
* JEFF:  Offered to serve as Vice-Chair
* ROBIN WILTON:  *ACTION*:  Issue ballot to fill these positions after quorum issue is resolved.

h5. 11. All Other Business

* SUSAN:  recommended that P3 develop a strategic focus to move us beyond fire-fighting mode
* JEFF:  *ACTION*:  sent out email to P3 distribution soliciting ideas and discussion on P3 strategic focus in advance of next meeting

h5. 12. Update Roll Call

* No one new had joined during call

h3.


h3. ACTION ITEMS

* ROBIN: *ACTION*: draft a letter to those not participating regarding Observer status
* b.     JEFF Observer status
* ROBIN WILTON:  *ACTION*:  DistributeIssue letterballot to thosefill these whopositions areafter notquorum participatingissue is h5resolved.
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Summary:

* SUSAN:&nbsp; *ACTION*:&nbsp; sent out links to two papers:&nbsp; one on how de-anonymization increases privacy risk and the other on using icons to simplify privacy preferences
* SUSAN:&nbsp; *ACTION*:&nbsp; will check with Brett to determine if there are other Kantara plans to respond to FTC request to maintain alignment

* RANDY:&nbsp; *ACTION*:&nbsp; make sure that this is being considered by Kantara as a Kantara-wide recommendation

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* IAIN:&nbsp; *ACTION*:&nbsp; sent out link to BT privacy study
* IAIN & JEFF:&nbsp; *ACTION:*&nbsp; draft straw-man response to FTC questions 1 and 3
* JEFF:&nbsp;*ACTION*:&nbsp; Distribute letter to those who are not participating
* JEFF:&nbsp; *ACTION:&nbsp;&nbsp;* resubmit ICAM ballot after quorum issue is resolved
* JEFF:&nbsp; *ACTION*:&nbsp; will submit a FTC panelist application on behalf of P3
* JEFF:&nbsp; *ACTION*:&nbsp; Jeff sent a note to Staff for consideration of implementing Matrix of Mandates
* JEFF:&nbsp; *ACTION*:&nbsp;&nbsp;* resubmitsent ballotout after quorum issue is resolved
* No changes email to currentP3 documentdistribution soliciting h5.ideas 4.and Topicdiscussion 4on P3 *strategic Bulletfocus Listin **advance Secondof Levelnext Bullet Listmeeting

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