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These minutes were APPROVED on the June 3rd P3WG Conference Call.

Kantara Initiative Privacy & Public Policy Teleconference

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Attendees 

Voting

  1. Jeff Stollman
  2. Abbie Barbir
  3. Susan Landau
  4. Mark Lizar
  5. Trent Adams
  6.  Colin Soutar

Non-Voting

  1. Colin Suter
  2. LindsayLindy Siegert
  3. Joni Brennan
  4. Aaron Titus
  5. AnnAnna Ticktin

Apologies

  1. Robin Wilton
  2. Brett McDowell

Agenda

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  1. Roll call

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  1. Action Item updates

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        1. Liaisons relationship with OASIS Privacy Management TC and ETSI (Abbie)

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        1. OECD in Israel 25-26 October (Abbie)

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        1. P3wg outreach to corporate CPOs (Robin)

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        1. Privacy Module (Trent)

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        1. Privacy Management Framework (Mark)

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      1. Approve minutes from previous meeting

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      1. Privacy news updates

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      1. Privacy policy rights vs. new technology Terms Of Service (Jeff)

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      1. All other business

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      1. Update Roll Call

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      1. Review Action Items

      Minutes

      1. Roll Call

      Motion to mov Bob  move Bob Pinheiro into Non-Voting status , agreed.

      Motion tochange to change titles of Chair, to Co chair -Chair for Abbie, and Jeff — agreed

      Joni Introduce Anna Ticktin, Technical Program Co-Ordinator for IAWG, 

      2. Action Item updates

      Meetings/Liasons :   Conference Attendance

      1. OECD

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      1. in Israel

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      Kantara Meeting Paris, Colin going to Kantara Oct 21??  May be able to goto Israel, Oct OECD meeting.

        Kantara Fall (?what date, where?) When,  Abbie may be able to go.

       Kantara Fall (?what date, where) meeting.  Trent may be able to go.

      1. 25-26 October (Abbie)
      •   Abbie seeking travel funding to support this;
      •   ACTION:  Abbie will send out an email to follow up on funding for OECD travel
      •   Trent is debating attending on behalf of ISOC and ITAC:
      •   Colin Wallis may be able to attend on his way back from meeting in Paris, if he is going to Paris
      •   Update Christine with results: Christine Runnegar <runnegar@isoc.org>
      1. Attendance at KI Fall Meeting in Paris for joint session w/IAwg & HIAwg (Jeff)
        • Brett would attend if there is an agenda to accomplish things with IA & HIA
        • Robin expects to attend
        • Abbie needs to get permission from his employer
        • Trent expects to attend
        • Colin W needs to get permission from his employer

      Attendance EMMA OASIS meeting June 9th or 10th, London? - Both Trent, and Abbie

      ISO National Bodies: Workshop?? Where?? 8, and 9th of October, Need to know for June 14th, P3 paper.

      ITU Meeting September?  Privacy

      1. #* Abbie will attend
        • Robin will attend

      Colin W will forward details for 2-day workshop sponsored by ISO Privacy Steering Committee (Steve Johnson, liaison) First Int’l Privacy Standards Conference  8-9 OCT in Berlin

      1. #*   Colin W likely

       ACTION:  Mark will create wiki page to track conferences and our group attendees

      3. Approve minutes from previous meeting

      Quorum was reached:

      Motion to approve minutes from previous meeting as Notes: a.      

      1. Minutes from 28 JAN

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      1. Minutes from 04 FEB

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      1. Minutes from 18 FEB

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      1. Minutes from 25 FEB

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      1. Minutes from 25 MAR

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      1. Minutes from 01 APR

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      1. Minutes from 08 APR

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      1. Minutes from 15 APR

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      1. Minutes from 22 APR

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      1. Minutes from 06 May

      Jeff: Motion to moving notes into minutes , on the conference call was opposed by Trent.

      Motion was withdrawn by Abbie

      -->New Motion Trent Motioned to ask people WG to read the minutes via the WG list and approve notes by ballot for inclusion into minutes via ballotfor next quorum call.  

      ActionACTION: Given to Mark to Markto send ballot to list

      4. Subgroup Reports

      Subgroup:  IIW UMA Legal / Policy Update Session at IIW, both Mark and Jeff at IIW- Global Policy   Frameworks neededJeff & Mark

      • Looked at usability of trust frameworks and UMA. 
      • Discussed the general legal use case and the negotiation of terms
      • Agreed that Global Policy Frameworks are needed for more advanced information sharing

      Jeff: Session on getting the Genie back in the Bottle IIW Session-

      • Not all our data, or future data is out of the bottle

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      • Data destruction and maximum attention,

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      •   trying to reduce ability for for PII to stay in the environment, Vanish -

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      • controlling dissemination of personal information

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      • Sun

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      • did work

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      • in this area as well.

      Mark: We should discuss this This would be good to discuss on the list via a and fits well in discussions of Privacy Management FrameworkFrameworks

      Trent: Privacy Framework Writ Large

      - How to address Privacy Issues. Working on a Addendum for a Privacy Framework as a module is under review to extend beyond Identity Assurance and Credentialling.Privacy Module (Trent, Robin, Colin)

      • Working on white paper outline rationalizing the need for a privacy framework
      • Original assumptions all failed to hold up
      • Based on review of trust framework documents
      • Trust frameworks don’t cover life-cycle, just credential issuance
      • Will then cycle back with P3 for approval of outline

      Privacy Management Framework (Mark)

      • Mark sent out email
      • Wants to get someone to review ISO draft, but those who review it can’t disseminate it.
      • Need to identify liaison
      • Maybe Joni
      • ACTION:  Joni will followup
      • Mark will touch base w/Trent, robin & Colin S to see if they are pursuing the same effort, given the change of direction of the Privacy Module and then report back to the group on the results next meeting
      5. All Other Business

      Meeting Next Week

      6. Review Action Items

      ACTION ITEMS

      • ActionACTION: Calendar for LiasonsLiaisons, Meetings, Conferences, - (Mark: Note Calls for Papers would be good as well)
      • ActionACTION: Mark: Send a ballot to the list ask meeting notes to be passed into  minuitesinto minutes
      • ActionACTION: Mark: Calendar for P3 Events, liasonsliaisons, and meetings.
      • ActionACTION: Abbie to make sure P3 formally invited by the ITU
      • ActionACTION: Mark & Colin, Robin, Trent to meet about Privacy Framework,
      • ActionACTION: ISO document Joni to look in to LiasonLiaison
      • ActionACTION: Update RossetorRoster

      Next Meeting

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