P3WG Meeting Minutes 2010-05-27

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These minutes were APPROVED on the June 3rd P3WG Conference Call.

Kantara Initiative Privacy & Public Policy Teleconference

Date and Time

  • Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010
  • Time: 08:00 PDT | 11:00 EDT | 16:00 UTC

Meeting Minute Status

Attendees 

Voting

  1. Jeff Stollman
  2. Abbie Barbir
  3. Susan Landau
  4. Mark Lizar
  5. Trent Adams
  6. Colin Soutar

Non-Voting

  1. Lindy Siegert
  2. Joni Brennan
  3. Aaron Titus
  4. Anna Ticktin

Apologies

  1. Robin Wilton
  2. Brett McDowell

Agenda

  1. Roll call
  2. Action Item updates
    1. Liaisons relationship with OASIS Privacy Management TC and ETSI (Abbie)
    2. OECD in Israel 25-26 October (Abbie)
    3. P3wg outreach to corporate CPOs (Robin)
    4. Privacy Module (Trent)
    5. Privacy Management Framework (Mark)
  3. Approve minutes from previous meeting
  4. Privacy news updates
  5. Privacy policy rights vs. new technology Terms Of Service (Jeff)
  6. All other business
  7. Update Roll Call
  8. Review Action Items

Minutes

1. Roll Call

Motion to move Bob Pinheiro into Non-Voting status — agreed.

Motion to change titles of Chair, to Co-Chair for Abbie, and Jeff — agreed

Joni Introduce Anna Ticktin, Technical Program Co-Ordinator for IAWG, 

2. Action Item updates

   Conference Attendance

  1. OECD in Israel 25-26 October (Abbie)
  •   Abbie seeking travel funding to support this;
  •   ACTION:  Abbie will send out an email to follow up on funding for OECD travel
  •   Trent is debating attending on behalf of ISOC and ITAC:
  •   Colin Wallis may be able to attend on his way back from meeting in Paris, if he is going to Paris
  •   Update Christine with results: Christine Runnegar <runnegar@isoc.org>
  1. Attendance at KI Fall Meeting in Paris for joint session w/IAwg & HIAwg (Jeff)
    • Brett would attend if there is an agenda to accomplish things with IA & HIA
    • Robin expects to attend
    • Abbie needs to get permission from his employer
    • Trent expects to attend
    • Colin W needs to get permission from his employer

Attendance EMMA OASIS meeting June 9th or 10th, London

  1. #* Abbie will attend
    • Robin will attend

Colin W will forward details for 2-day workshop sponsored by ISO Privacy Steering Committee (Steve Johnson, liaison) First Int’l Privacy Standards Conference  8-9 OCT in Berlin

  1. #*   Colin W likely

 ACTION:  Mark will create wiki page to track conferences and our group attendees

3. Approve minutes from previous meeting

Quorum was reached:

Motion to approve minutes from previous meeting as Notes:

  1. Minutes from 28 JAN
  2. Minutes from 04 FEB
  3. Minutes from 18 FEB
  4. Minutes from 25 FEB
  5. Minutes from 25 MAR
  6. Minutes from 01 APR
  7. Minutes from 08 APR
  8. Minutes from 15 APR
  9. Minutes from 22 APR
  10. Minutes from 06 May

Jeff: Motion to moving notes into minutes on the conference call was opposed by Trent.

Motion was withdrawn by Abbie

Trent Motioned to ask WG to read minutes via the WG list and approve notes by ballot for inclusion into minutes for next quorum call.  

ACTION: Given to Mark to send ballot to list

4. Subgroup Reports

 IIW UMA Legal / Policy Update Session at IIW, Jeff & Mark

  • Looked at usability of trust frameworks and UMA. 
  • Discussed the general legal use case and the negotiation of terms
  • Agreed that Global Policy Frameworks are needed for more advanced information sharing

Jeff: Session on getting the Genie back in the Bottle IIW Session

  • Not all our data, or future data is out of the bottle
  • Data destruction and maximum attention,  trying to reduce ability for for PII to stay in the environment, Vanish - controlling dissemination of personal information
  • Sun did work in this area as well.

Mark: This would be good to discuss on the list and fits well in discussions of Privacy Management Frameworks

Privacy Module (Trent, Robin, Colin)

  • Working on white paper outline rationalizing the need for a privacy framework
  • Original assumptions all failed to hold up
  • Based on review of trust framework documents
  • Trust frameworks don’t cover life-cycle, just credential issuance
  • Will then cycle back with P3 for approval of outline

Privacy Management Framework (Mark)

  • Mark sent out email
  • Wants to get someone to review ISO draft, but those who review it can’t disseminate it.
  • Need to identify liaison
  • Maybe Joni
  • ACTION:  Joni will followup
  • Mark will touch base w/Trent, robin & Colin S to see if they are pursuing the same effort, given the change of direction of the Privacy Module and then report back to the group on the results next meeting
5. All Other Business

Meeting Next Week

6. Review Action Items

ACTION ITEMS

  • ACTION: Calendar for Liaisons, Meetings, Conferences, (Mark: Note Calls for Papers would be good as well)
  • ACTION: Mark: Send a ballot to the list ask meeting notes to be passed into minutes
  • ACTION: Mark: Calendar for P3 Events, liaisons, and meetings.
  • ACTION: Abbie to make sure P3 formally invited by the ITU
  • ACTION: Mark & Colin, Robin, Trent to meet about Privacy Framework,
  • ACTION: ISO document Joni to look in to Liaison
  • ACTION: Update Roster

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