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LC telecon 2012-06-20

Date and Time

  • Date: Wednesday, 20 June 2012
  • Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart)
  • Call-in toll-free number: 1-866-203-0920
  • Call-in number: 1-206-445-0056
    • Conference Code: 5423695925#
  • International Dial-In Numbers

Agenda

  1. Roll Call
  2. Approve 2012-05-09 Minutes
  3. Administration:
    1. Executive Director report
    2. Action Item Review
    3. Quarterly Reports
    4. LC Vice-Chair Vote
  4. Discussion
    1. AMDG report discussion
    2. By-Laws & OPs
    3. Identity & Attribute combined group coordination (P3WG, HIAWG, IAWG, AMDG)
    4. KI position paper: NSTIC Steering Group Formation v0.2
  5. WG Updates
  6. BoT Liaison Representative Update
  7. AOB
  8. Adjourn

Attendees

  •  

Quorum is 6 of 11 as of 06 June 2012.

Staff:

  •  

Secretary:

  •  Heather Flanagan

Non-voting:

  •  Heather Flanagan

Apologies:

Minutes & Notes

Administration: Approve 2012-05-09 Minutes

Not at quorum

Administration: Executive Director report

Administration: Action Item Review

Action

Assigned To

Status

Description

Comments

20120425-02

Heather Flanagan

In Progress

collect and coordinate input on changes to make to the operating agreement

 

20120425-03

Joni Brennan

Open

Provide cohesive statement to LC regarding Kantara Mission for subsequent dissemination and discussion with WG

 

20120509-01

all LC

Open

Review the AMDG Final Report (sent to LC list 08-May) in prep for vote on 23-May

 

20120530-01

Dervla O'ReillyOpenContact Japan WG chair regarding LC voting participation 
20120530-02Pete PalmerOpenOne page position paper identifying the position on the identity assurance framework and assessor program should be put on equal footing for RFP for health and human services 
20120530-03Colin SoutarOpenSolicit feedback from NSTIC DG regarding industry classification and how Kantara should participate in NSTIC 
20120530-04Patrick Curry, Colin Wallis, Joni Brennan, Ken DaggOpenCome up with first pass of industry classification and Venn diagram 
20120530-05Dervla O'ReillyOpenSend out e-vote regarding accepting AMDG report as a Kantara document 

New Action Items

Action

Assigned To

Status

Description

Comments

     

 

Administration: Quarterly Reports

  • Q2 reports due: 31 July, 2012

Administration: LC Vice-Chair Vote



Discussion:

AMDG  Report:

  1. Is the work described in this Recommendation something Kantara should be doing?

  2. Should a new working group be created around this Recommendation?

  3. Is there another Working Group already in existence that can/should take on this work?

Heather's suggestions:

  • A new attribute working group with the mandate of defining context and clarifying use, continuing to develop the repository and clarify definitions
  • For the Definitions and general coordination, recommend we continue to use the cross-WG meta-group of the P3WG, IAWG, HIAWG, and the Attribute group (no new group)
  • For "Trust Frameworks" gap, recommend we pass this over to the Trust Framework Meta Model WG
  • For Governance, formally pass this over to the ISOC group working in this space
  • For Mechanisms, perhaps the NSTIC group?  Possibly/probably not global enough; perhaps OIX?

By-Laws & OPs

8.1.1 Member

any entity that has completed the application forms, satisfied the objective membership criteria for the Organization, executed a copy of the Member Agreement, and paid the appropriate Membership Fee as established by the Board of Trustees.  A Member may be an individual, corporation, partnership, join venture, trust, limited liability company, business association, governmental entity or other entity.

 

Member benefits include:

* Access to non-public/confidential drafts through the Kantara Initiative liaison agreements and relationships

                1. I don't recall there being a confidentiality clause in the Kantara membership agreement that is the flow-through of our (Kantara's) obligation to third parties.   We may consider adding a               clause in the membership agreement to this effect.

* Eligibility for positions on the Leadership Council

                2. Is this true for members that are not Officers of an WG/DG?

* Listing of Member Logo on web roster

* Ability to sponsor Work/Discussion Group formation

* Ability to request directed funding without overhead

 

More By-Laws & OPs

Operating Procedures - Nominations

Procedures for handling nominations to any leadership position are not laid out in the OP.  Are there any categories of Members/Participants that are NOT allowed to be nominated in to a position?  Should there be a minimum nomination period?  Can anyone submit a nomination?  Need to clarify these things.

                3. As per my comment 2 above.

More By-Laws & OPs

4. I’d like to suggest that the following text be considered with regards to voting.   The changes I have suggested would be generally consistent with operating procedures in SDO’s; would give some notice to the delinquent Participant of the impending action; and would avoid any perception of the ability for members to “vote hop”.   Even though we have not suffered from this at all, the perception of the ability to attain voting rights “at will” in light of an “interesting” agenda item, I believe would be better removed, and is more respectful of the active body of the membership.

 

3.7

OLD

All Participants present at a WG meeting are voting members of the WG. For the purpose of maintaining a reasonable ability to achieve Quorum, any Participant in a WG who fails to attend two consecutive meetings of the WG may, at the discretion of the Chair, be re-classified as a non-voting member. Voting member status may be reacquired by attending a meeting of the WG. In the case of an electronic vote of the WG, if the electronic vote is initiated while a Participant is in non-voting status, the Participant may not vote in that electronic vote.

 

PROPOSED

All Participants present at a WG meeting are voting members of the WG, unless they have elected to be non-voting Participants.   For the purpose of ensuring an active membership base is maintained,  any Participant in a WG who fails to attend two consecutive meetings of the WG may, at the discretion of the Chair, be re-classified as a non-voting member.    Such re-classification shall be stated in the agenda of the meeting in which it takes affect.   Voting member status may be re-acquired by attending a meeting of the WG, in which case the voting member status is effective at the conclusion of the meeting.   In the case of an electronic vote of the WG, if the electronic vote is initiated while a Participant is in non-voting status, the Participant may not vote in that electronic vote.

 

If adopted, this revised text would likely be similarly appropriate for clause 2.6 relating to the LC.

 

More By-Laws & OPs

By-Laws - IPR and Copyright

May want to review whether it is reasonable for KI to continue with the model of WG/DG deciding their own IPR.  Perhaps have a base IPR policy explicitly mentioned in the By-laws and allow WG/DG to do something different if explained/required?

 

CW: Noting that no-one has commented on this which I find surprising. I guess no comment means the status quo continues which I think is more transparent than the baseline/exception alternative.

WG Updates

BoT Liason Report

AOB

Note that next meeting is scheduled for 4 July, 2012 - move or cancel?

Adjourn

Next Meeting

  • Date: Wednesday, 4 July, 2012
  • Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart)
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