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Meeting Status Metadata

Quorum

QUORATE

Notes-Status

DRAFTING

Approved-Link

TBD

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Quorum: QUORATE NOT QUORATE

Notes-Status: DRAFTING READY FOR REVIEW APPROVED

Approved-Link: Insert a link to the Meeting Notes page holding the approval decision for this notes page

Agenda

DRAFT 6.27.2024

  1. Administration:

  1. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates:

    • Proposed Meeting Cadence for June/Extended Summer

      • June 13, June 27

      • July 11, July 25

      • August 8, August 22

    • Informal poll from LC to determine overall use of AI in report/content generation (goal is to decide whether a policy is needed)

      • "Have you used Chat-gpt or other AI tools to help generate or contribute to any group content or reports?"

    • Eballot Results 

      • 8 votes total - 1 ineligible vote (cast by nonmember) = 7 total votes (out of 9)

        1. Quorum was achieved

        2. Question 1: 6 approve, 1 disapprove

          1. 7 votes

        3. Question 2: 5 approve, 1 disapprove

          1. 6 votes

          2. 1 additional person skipped this question

      • Update on next steps

    • Address of Record update:

      • Address of Record–(most recent version from February 8th with ARB Comment); response in progress

  2. ISO 17065 Discussion Items

  3. Group Discussion:  

    • Potential Criteria Updates

      • Discussion: re: 63B#1340, 63A#0130 b) (Jimmy Jung’s email on May 28th),  and  63B#0120. Led by Jimmy.

    • NIST's 63B Supplement for Syncable Authenticators 

      • Initial discussion to determine if any criteria need changing

    • ARB comment on potential bug in 63A#0510 criteria (Lynzie)

      • Talks about biometric performance requirements which is more about measuring algorithmic performance and not human performance. If using a human, this cannot be done.

      • #0510 references 63B authentication criteria and authentication doesn’t recognize human verification of the biometric against some portrait or reference biometric. The 63B criteria is only applicable to automated biometric systems.

  4. Any Other Business

\uD83D\uDC65 Attendees

Voting: Andrew Hughes, Eric Thompson, Yehoshua Silberstein, Jimmy Jung, Vladimir S.(CLEAR), Richard Wilsher

Nonvoting: Roger Quint

Staff: Amanda Gay

Guests:

Quorum determination

Meeting is quorate when 50% + 1 of voting participants attend

There are <<8>> voters as of <<2024-06-27>>

Approval of Prior Minutes

Motion to approve meeting minutes listed below: Minutes approval delayed until next call.

Moved by:

Seconded by:

Link to draft minutes and outcome

Discussion

\uD83D\uDDE3 Discussion topics

Time

Item

Presenter

Notes

Eballot results and update on next steps

  1. Getting strong pushback from Kay and ARB regarding what happens next–Andrew Hughes in negotiations.

  2. SPS with TrustMarks-design their services as they work/plan per market demands, customer needs, etc.

  3. Kantara’s criteria is designed around NIST 800-63-3

Tabled for future

  • Initial discussion to determine if any criteria need changing

  • Roger: what is Kantara’s perspective?

  • 4 pieces of criteria-don’t allow cloning (Jimmy)-and passkeys allow cloning

  • Supplement implies that there are things (shall statements) to do, but they don’t provide them  - not clear what to do with it

  • Letting those 4 criteria go would be a material change (or somehow note that this can be waived base don supplement)

  • Then based on that supplement-are there other things that need changing/updating and adjust criteria

  • Supplement establish a new authenticator?

    • Addresses inhibitions on multi-factor crypto that were drafted when they drafted rev 3

✅ Open Action items

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DescriptionDue dateAssigneeTask appears on
  • Andrew: Andrew will prepare a cover letter thanking them for the opportunity to provide feedback, and ship that off prior to deadline.  Will share the letter with IAWG after.
 2024-02-22 Minutes
  • Richard: re-present comparable alternative criteria to IAWG with clean examples.
 2024-02-15 Minutes

⤴ Decisions

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