UMA telecon 2023-11-02

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Last updated: Nov 16, 2023
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UMA telecon 2023-11-02

Date and Time

Agenda

Attendees

  • NOTE: As of Sept 15, 2022, quorum is 3 of 5. (Peter, Sal, Alec, Eve, Steve)

  • Voting:

    • Alec

    • Sal

  • Non-voting participants:

  • Regrets:

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Quorum: No

 

Meeting Minutes

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Topics

 

Pensions Dashboard Use-case report

Draft will be worked on here:

 

Discuss: UMA presentation for HL7 FAST WG

 

 

UMA and Wallets/User Held Credentials (+ mDL?)

 

What is our Goal in this area?

  1. information for the WG. Peter will come back with refreshed reading of -7

  2. impl guide to work with UMA ASs or use UMA to solve their federated RS flows

Next steps: think about what work products we may want to produce

 

AOB

 

Potential Future Work Items / Meeting Topics

 

Tentative 2023 roadmap:

  • 120 A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template)

    • openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile)

    • 123 Pensions Dasboard Report → use-case is well understood and live/going live soon. tight use-case

    • 127 Open Banking Report → requires more research, determine use case

      • Who would lead this/ needs this for UMA in open banking contexts? Should come after FAPI review?

  • 130 IDPro knowledge base articles

  • 140 Wikipedia article refresh:

  • UMA simple value explainers, business and technical ‘marketing’

  • 170 UMA + Verifiable Credentials OR UMA and Wallets/User Held Credentials (+ mDL?)

    • how does a wallet fulfill both an RS and AS responsibility for a user? How are available resources and attributes understandable by a wide-ecosystem

    • how does a local/offline wallet act as an RS if it’s offline?

    • how to create true user controlled ecosystem, not a few major wallets…

 

Full list:

  • 20 Confluence clean up, archive old items and promote the latest & greatest

    • 10 UMA glossary – Steve has started 

  • 100 FAPI Review (FAPI + UMA) 

    • scope: how the FAPI work could be applied to UMA ecosystems

    • review may inform what profiling work is required, eg if UMA must support PAR to work with FAPI

  • 120 A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template)

    • openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile)

    • 123 Pensions Dasboard Report → use-case is well understood and live/going live soon. tight use-case

    • 127 Open Banking Report → requires more research, determine use case

      • Who would lead this/ needs this for UMA in open banking contexts? Should come after FAPI review?

  • 130 IDPro knowledge base articles

  • 140 Wikipedia article refresh

  • 150 Minor profiling work,

    • resource scopes → scopes 

    • PAR as dynamic scopes eg fhir query params

    • policy manager & policy description

    • 110 pushed claims types: templates + profiles (beyond IDTokens): 171 VCs, 113 consent, policy, mDL

      • use-case, consent as claims (needs_info),

        • if the client has gathered RqP consent, can it be presented to the AS

        • the policy to access a resource says "you must have agreed to this TOS/consent"

        • compare to interactive claims gathering where the AS would present this consent/TOS to the RqP

        • intersection with ANCR/consent receipt/trust registry work in other Kantara groups

  • 170 UMA + Verifiable Credentials OR UMA and Wallets/User Held Credentials

    • how would VCs work in an UMA ecosystem? How could VCs be used as claims in UMA

    • There are openapi specs for VC formats

    • Could UMA protect a VC presentation or issuance endpoint?

    • There's a lot of openid4vc profiles 

  • 300 mDL + UMA

    • scope: how mDL could work in UMA ecosystems, how mDL could be a claim to UMA 

    • is there a role for UMA in token fabrication and referencing it as the RS?

  • 600 Review of the email-poc correlated authorization specification

  • 500 UMA + GNAP https://oauth.xyz/specs/ 

    • would we have an UMA GNAP version (eg extension of GNAP or UMA? UMAonGNAP) 

    • will GNAP meet all the UMA outcomes?

  • UMA 2 playground/sandbox

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