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UMA telecon 2022-08-25

UMA telecon 2022-08-25

Aug 25, 2022

UMA telecon 2022-08-25

Date and Time

Agenda

Attendees

  • NOTE: As of October 26, 2020, quorum is 5 of 9. (Michael, Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Alec, Eve, Steve)

  • Voting:

    • Alec 

    • Peter

    • Steve

  • Non-voting participants:

    • Lenore

    • Nancy

  • Regrets:

Quorum: No



Meeting Minutes



Approve previous meeting minutes

  • Deferred - no quorum

Topics

UDAP Spec Reviews



One of our questions around UDAP is that it's not an implementation profile, HL7 has created IGs that use UDAP as the base profile here: https://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/fhir-udap-security-ig/branches/main/user.html 



Determine next work items

What do we want to do next? Lots of ideas below, what's most important

Current WIP

  • Update Julie Report to v0.4 – Nancy to accept suggested changed, reviewed with group ~1month ago

  • New report with core UMA (no use-case) content from Julie Report  → could evolve to IDPro article? – Alec 

  • UMA Glossary – Steve 

  • Confluence Clean Up: activate new links + archive old content + general usability of the wiki – Alec / Steve, 

We prioritized the list below, lower numbers = higher priority. Nothing is "final", feel free to comment

  • one driver is if the item was of interest to many or few member

  • other consideration is who is motivated to lead the item



AOB



Potential Future Work Items / Meeting Topics

  • 100 FAPI Review (FAPI + UMA) 

    • scope: how the FAPI work could be applied to UMA ecosystems

    • review may inform what profiling work is required, eg if UMA must support PAR to work with FAPI

  • 20 Confluence clean up, archive old items and promote the latest & greatest

    • 10 UMA glossary – Steve has started 

  • 600 Review of the email-poc correlated authorization specification

  • 120 A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template)

    • either open banking or pensions dashboard

    • openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile)

    • Who would lead this/ needs this for UMA in open banking contexts? Should come after FAPI review?

  • 300 mDL + UMA

    • scope: how mDL could work in UMA ecosystems, how mDL could be a claim to UMA 

    • is there a role for UMA in token fabrication and referencing it as the RS?

  • 500 UMA + GNAP https://oauth.xyz/specs/ 

    • would we have an UMA GNAP version (eg extension of GNAP or UMA? UMAonGNAP) 

    • will GNAP meet all the UMA outcomes?

  • 170 UMA + Verifiable Credentials

    • how would VCs work in an UMA ecosystem? How could VCs be used as claims in UMA

    • There are openapi specs for VC formats

    • Could UMA protect a VC presentation or issuance endpoint?

    • There's a lot of openid4vc profiles 

  • IDPro knowledge base articles

  • UMA 2 playground/sandbox

  • 150 Minor profiling work,

    • resource scopes → scopes 

    • PAR as dynamic scopes eg fhir query params

    • 110 pushed claims types: templates + profiles (beyond IDTokens): 171 VCs, 113 consent, policy, mDL

      • use-case, consent as claims (needs_info),

        • if the client has gathered RqP consent, can it be presented to the AS

        • the policy to access a resource says "you must have agreed to this TOS/consent"

        • compare to interactive claims gathering where the AS would present this consent/TOS to the RqP

        • intersection with ANCR/consent receipt/trust registry work in other Kantara groups

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