UMA telecon 2023-01-26
UMA telecon 2023-01-26
Date and Time
Primary-week Thursdays 06:30am PT; Secondary-week Thursdays 10:00am PT
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Agenda
Approve minutes since UMA telecon 2023-01-12
Julie Use-case, move from draft to v1
IDPro knowledge base / general UMA articles - discuss updates
Pensions Dashboard Use-case report
AOB
Attendees
NOTE: As of Sept 15, 2022, quorum is 4 of 6. (Peter, Sal, Alec, Eve, Steve, Sophia)
Voting:
Peter
Alec
Sal
Non-voting participants:
Hanfei
Regrets:
Steve
Quorum: No
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Meeting Minutes
Approve previous meeting minutes
Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2023-01-12 UMA telecon 2023-01-19
Deferred - no quorum
Topics
Julie Use-case, move from draft to v1
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aG88GJMxOdYoEjQIAyzoTrUnFud-cnpmPD1rt9XAdGA/edit#
Alec’s going to publish a v1 and upload the PDF to our confluence page
Pensions Dashboard / Open Banking Use-case report, initial discussion
Draft will be worked on here: Pension Dashboard Use-Case Report
UK Pensions is separate from openbanking in general, however, it’s in the same financial vertical and shows a real UMA application
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IDPro knowledge base / general UMA articles
AOB
How could an app be an RS or AS, universal links starts to help with this issue however there are other considerations e.g. the client requests must originate from the same device/browser, otherwise, it’s routed to the single backend server and not the user’s installed app
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Could we profile or create an IG around using notice & consent receipts with an UMA AS, e.g. to present terms and purposes to be accepted by the RqP/RO. This comes back to having a defined language for policy vs leaving it open to the AS
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https://transparencylab.ca/ is hosting a workshop tomorrow (Jan 27) about transparency performance indicators and how they can be related to a controller credential, something that people make
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Potential Future Work Items / Meeting Topics
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Tentative 2023 roadmap:
120 A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template)
openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile)
123 Pensions Dasboard Report → use-case is well understood and live/going live soon. tight use-case
Let’s reach out to some of the involved people eg at Origo or Forgerock. Were there any gaps in UMA they had to work around?
127 Open Banking Report → requires more research, determine use case
Who would lead this/ needs this for UMA in open banking contexts? Should come after FAPI review?
130 IDPro knowledge base articles
140 Wikipedia article refresh: User-Managed Access
UMA simple value explainers, business and technical ‘marketing’
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Full list:
20 Confluence clean up, archive old items and promote the latest & greatest
10 UMA glossary – Steve has startedÂ
100 FAPI Review (FAPI + UMA)Â
scope: how the FAPI work could be applied to UMA ecosystems
review may inform what profiling work is required, eg if UMA must support PAR to work with FAPI
120 A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template)
openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile)
123 Pensions Dasboard Report → use-case is well understood and live/going live soon. tight use-case
Let’s reach out to some of the involved people eg at Origo or Forgerock. Were there any gaps in UMA they had to work around?
127 Open Banking Report → requires more research, determine use case
Who would lead this/ needs this for UMA in open banking contexts? Should come after FAPI review?
130 IDPro knowledge base articles
140 Wikipedia article refresh
150 Minor profiling work,
resource scopes → scopesÂ
PAR as dynamic scopes eg fhir query params
policy manager & policy description
110 pushed claims types: templates + profiles (beyond IDTokens): 171 VCs, 113 consent, policy, mDL
use-case, consent as claims (needs_info),
if the client has gathered RqP consent, can it be presented to the AS
the policy to access a resource says "you must have agreed to this TOS/consent"
compare to interactive claims gathering where the AS would present this consent/TOS to the RqP
intersection with ANCR/consent receipt/trust registry work in other Kantara groups
170 UMA + Verifiable Credentials
how would VCs work in an UMA ecosystem? How could VCs be used as claims in UMA
There are openapi specs for VC formats
Could UMA protect a VC presentation or issuance endpoint?
There's a lot of openid4vc profilesÂ
300 mDL + UMA
scope: how mDL could work in UMA ecosystems, how mDL could be a claim to UMAÂ
is there a role for UMA in token fabrication and referencing it as the RS?
600 Review of the email-poc correlated authorization specification
500 UMA + GNAP https://oauth.xyz/specs/Â
would we have an UMA GNAP version (eg extension of GNAP or UMA? UMAonGNAP)Â
will GNAP meet all the UMA outcomes?
UMA 2 playground/sandbox
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