UMA telecon 2015-01-15

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Last updated: Jan 15, 2015

UMA telecon 2015-01-15

Date and Time

Agenda

  • Roll call
  • Minutes approval
    • Sample motion: Approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2015-01-08.
  • Upcoming meeting schedule
    • APAC-friendly times?
    • Meet Jan 29? (Eve regrets)
    • Special meeting Mon Feb 23 after public review period closes and before LC meeting on Wed Feb 25?
  • Interop progress
    • Funding proposal
  • Educational materials
    • Wikipedia
    • FAQ
    • UIG
  • V1.0 rollout
  • Field public review comments and other open issues
    • Issue #125: Security considerations to discuss
  • AOB

Minutes

Roll call

Quorum was reached.

Minutes approval

MOTION: Approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2015-01-08. APPROVED by unanimous consent.

Upcoming meeting schedule

APAC-friendly meeting times will go into the calendar. Everyone should theoretically be able to attend if you want to; this is for the first week of every month, on Wednesdays (if you're not in APAC).

No meeting Jan 29; Eve regrets.

Special 1.5-hour meeting on Mon Feb 23 to prepare final drafts post-public review for LC consideration.

Interop progress

Our budget funding proposal was considered by the LC and they are recommending upward to the Kantara board.

Roland is taking time during the first week of Feb to do the redesign of the UMA feature tests. He is suggested that he could complete an alpha test harness by RSA timeframe. Mike notes that it would still be possible for implementers, ahead of hosting the tests, to down and run the tests themselves. This is still goodness, if still behind where we wanted to be.

Educational materials

The Wikipedia material needs some updating.

AI: Eve: Send suggested updates to Will at Gluu for English page updating, and to Domenico for Italian page updating, and to Rainer for hoped-for German page updating. Find out who did the Spanish page!

AI: Mark: Do a Dutch Wikipedia page translation.

AI: Ishan: Review the FAQ for needed updates (http://tinyurl.com/umafaq).

Regarding our UIG writing assignments, let's try and have some draft text by the end of the public review period.

V1.0 rollout

Topics we've discussed include webinars/Hangouts, a press release, events at various conferences (HIMSS/RSA/EIC...), interop activity, and so on. Mike would like to work on messaging around its positioning wrt OpenID Connect, especially since the work on UMA started before OpenID Connect. Eve suspects people don't care when spec work started. For certain audiences, John Bradley's characterization that "OIDC is about federated authn and UMA is about federated authz" is helpful. "Cross-domain" is an important element. Healthcare's "multiple portals" problem is a key attractor, though that's not a federation challenge inherently.

Part of the messaging challenge is: Which audience are we talking to, the person, the resource server app, or who? It sounds like John B was talking to the RS.

There are possibilities in the "HEART Venn" shown here.

UMA makes it possible to herd your personal data cats. ?? The cats, once out of the bag, can be convinced to come back! And everyone likes kittens. Implement UMA or the kittens will die!!!!!! (See this video. NOW.) (Also this followup.)

AI: Robert: Noodle on the kitten metaphor. We want to be the first web protocol to use catvertising.

 Attendees

As of 14 Jan 2015, quorum is 7 of 12. (Dom, Sal, Mark, Thomas, Andrew, Robert, Maciej, Eve, Mike, Jin, Ishan, Ravi)

  1. Ishan
  2. Eve
  3. Mark
  4. Andi
  5. Domenico
  6. Sal
  7. Mike
  8. Jin
  9. Robert

Non-voting participants:

  • George
  • Zhanna
  • Adrian

Guest:

  • Joni

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