2022-11-01 Meeting notes

 Date

Nov 1, 2022

 Participants

Voting Participants 

Name

Attending

Name

Attending

@Noreen Whysel

Y

Bev Corwin

Y

@Salvatore D'Agostino

Y

Thomas Sullivan

N

Catherine Schulten

Y

Jim StClair

N

@Jim Kragh

Y

@Tom Jones

Y

Quorum: Yes

Non-Voting Participants 

Name

Attending

Name

Attending

N/A

 

 Goals

  • Discuss End-User Characteristics

 Discussion topics

Meeting convened at 1pmEDT

Time

Item

Presenter

Notes

Time

Item

Presenter

Notes

10min

End-User Characteristics

@Jim Kragh

End-User Characteristics 

  • Attributes that will be building blocks for relying parties (RP - credentials).  We will have to make some assumptions about the content of 800-63-4 (draft); i.e., IAL 1 +.  Even though we will start with a 'basic' user ecosystem, we peg our efforts knowing that the end-user will be functioning with in a public health community down the road.

Comments:

  • Building Blocks for developing RIUP architecture within a healthcare use case

    • individual’s need

    • laws

  • Defining Attributes: It’s likely we will be defining them for use in an agnostic model, but not integrating them into a federated model

  • Need to interview people providing services:

    • Service oriented focus

    • Start with service provider’s Requirements

    • Then address Identity Requirements

      • right patient?

      • who is paying?

      • who should we contact?

      • is identity record available? accessible? lost? nonexistent?

50min

 

Farmworkers Use Case

@Tom Jones

Farmworkers/West Coast (CA to WA)

Designed to give migrant farmworkers an ID

It’s not a service, it just allows them to put an identity on their phone and attach certificates (passport, DACA card, etc) that they want to associate with that. Allows them to get jobs more easily.

Issues

  • Tom: Farm Worker use case:

    • Tend to move as family

    • Tend to be more than one worker per family

    • Only one phone per family

    • Phone can be lost or lent to someone else

    • Organization providing services:

      • United Farmworkers

      • Cirrus (spelling)

  • Tom: Low assurance since it is used for more than one person. Credentials themselves could have high assurance

  • Bev: Classification needs to be dynamic, multidimensional to address multitude of complex situations

  • Tom: Identity and identifier (association with the identity) needs to be separate

  • Bev: Self-asserted identity

How it works

  • Assign a DID

  • User gets the wallet and user attaches the credentials they want to it

  • High quality credentials associated with the DID

    • Enables lightweight identity structure

    • Can’t do heavy weight without enrollment system

Successes:

  • Louisiana allows people to place in a digital wallet for $6

  • “Circle of Trust/Identity” allows individuals within ones social group to attest to a person’s identity (Red Cross/ Farm Workers' Union)

  • Ukraine: online bank accounts attached to mobile devices used to verify identity

Questions:

  • Does it serve their needs well?

  • Could these entities get funding to provide the wallet?

  • Can a wallet be associated with more than one person? Is it wrong that a single wallet is associated with a single person/phone?

  • Is the Apple Wallet example appropriate for underserved populations? What are other ID types that could be used for these solutions?

    • Identity Services: Family, Community group, religious community, Zip Codes

 

Resources

 

RIUP-WG November 1, 2022 Discussion Outline

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2754043 could be a model for addressing underserved populations. (typology/topologies as opposed to taxonomy)

 

Adjourned at 2:10pmEDT

 Action items

 Decisions