2018-07-12 Meeting notes (CR)

2018-07-12 Meeting notes (CR)

Date

2018-07-12

Status of Minutes

Approved

Approved at: 2019-12-12 Meeting notes (CR) DRAFT

Attendees

Voting

  • Andrew Hughes

  • Jim Pasquale

  • Richard Gomer

  • Oscar Santolalla

  • Mark Lizar

Non-Voting

  • Tom Jones

  • Colin Wallis

  • Sylvester Mbagwu

  • Sal D'Agostino

Regrets

  • John Wunderlich

  • Kartik Venkatesh

Quorum Status


Meeting was quorate

 

Voting participants

 

Participant Roster (2016) - Quorum is 5 of 9 as of 2018-07-12

Iain Henderson, Mary Hodder, Harri Honko, Mark Lizar, Jim Pasquale, John Wunderlich, Andrew Hughes, Oscar Santolalla, Richard Gomer

Discussion Items

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Notes

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Who

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4 mins

  • Roll call

  • Agenda bashing

@Former user (Deleted)

 

5 min

  • Organization updates

All

Please review these blogs offline for current status on Kantara and all the DG/WG:

There is a new wiki page that will hold all the known implementations of Consent Receipts - Please update the page or inform Andrew of your implementation.

Planning a Member Plenary meeting October 26-ish San Francisco (Friday after IIW)

  • Are there specific cross-group items you'd like to propose to work on?

40 min

Interoperable Consent Receipt demo at MyData Conference

All

1) Story board discussion - Richard

https://gist.github.com/RichardGomer/14fccfb4c590d6b1285422215cd6e3b5

  • Diagram A: "Get consent receipt"

    • This is the crux of the demo

      • How does the user know they have a CR? 

        • What will a user experience when this happens?

        • Option: make CRs optional to the user (ask them if they want a CR at all)

      • How do they know what to do with at CR?

  • Diagram B: "List Consent Receipts"

    • The location of this diagram is not specific (on purpose)

    • Two parts here:

      • 1) for any given Data Controller, how will they show a list of CR for the user, to that user?

      • 2) open question about consolidate repos for CRs from many data controllers, for the user

    • FOR THE DEMO:

      • Use files to store the CRs

      • Use a filename convention (including extension)

      • Use a dedicated folder to hold the downloaded CR files

      • Use a File Manager to get a list of CRs

    • ACTION: Mark: to ask Joss if the receipt storage application is available (from the COEL work)

  • Diagram C: "View a Consent Receipt"

    • Consentua does not currently do this - who does?

    • digi.me has a viewer in the product today

      • He will have a sample JSON receipt export available this week

      • At this time, digi.me does not want to be a wallet - so no function planned to import general purpose CRs

      • There are too many wallets on the market already

    • OpenConsent is in planning stages of creating a general purpose viewer

      • Current implementation is for 'privacy receipt' which is a subset of a 'consent receipt'

    • Ubisecure

      • Viewer is not planned for this timeframe - they plan to generate CRs for download through the browser

    • Tom Jones has an XSL for diplaying CRs

  • Diagram D: "Move a Consent Receipt"

    • Open question about how to move the receipt from one system to another

      • Export/download/import (browser)

      • Share action (on mobile)

      • Drag-drop (desktop)

      • Email - do we have a MIME-type for Consent Receipts? (Nope, not yet)

      • Q: What about using an API? A: The diagrams are about user interaction patterns, not infrastructure.

 

 

 

2) Issues discussion

No massive show-shoppers at this time

 

 

 

3) Timing for initial testing & location of repo

  • ACTION: Andrew to publish the WG's github repo location

  • ACTION: Andrew to create an publish a Google Drive folder for file exchanges (e.g. Exported CR files)

  • digi.me is almost ready to start exporting CRs

 

AOB

 

  • REMINDER: Jim has circulated links to demo apps for digi.me - please take a look and feedback/questions

 

Next meeting

 

2018-07-19 same time, same number

GOAL IS TO HAVE ALL DEMO PARTICIPANTS JOIN THE CALL TO WORK OUT ANY MAJOR ISSUES

 

From 2018-07-12 call:

Andrew walked through the sequence diagram.

  • Richard - the 'Export' consent receipt might be too disruptive to the user - maybe

  • John Krogulski - what data formats? A: It's set out in the specification

  • Mark - should we be using JWT for transfers?

    • A: This might be a complexity that we should incorporate in later interops

    • A: This is a complexity versus future-proofing question... ANDREW to ask the list/implementers

  • ACTION: All to post comments to the wiki page about the sequence diagram, questions, clarifications etc.

  • Storyboard

    • Ready to draft a user story - aiming for delivery on next call

  • Tom - there are prior activities that are not showing on the sequence - the Data Subject has to be identified to the Controller and Platform including any consents

  • Mark - the "initial consent flow" - the sequence is not showing the bootstrapping sequence - the sequence is showing the ongoing interactions

    • ACTION: Andrew to annotate with prerequistes and assumptions of user already being set up

  • Richard

    • ACTION: to document the technical flows of Consentua in the context of the interop demo sequence

  • Sylvester's Action item:

 A receipt reader is an application that parses (reads) consent receipts automatically. A reader only handles consent receipts in it's machine readable format  and is a component of some automatic process. 

A receipt viewer is an application that a human uses to interpret the contents of a consent receipt. An application can only be considered a receipt viewer if it presents receipt data in a human readable form.

A receipt dashboard is an app used by humans to store and manage consent receipts. A user can use their dashboard to perform batch operations on multiple receipts at a time.

 ACTION: All to comment on these starter definitions, on list (note that the text above has already been edited)

From 2018-06-28

  • Discussed Kartik's v1 of the sequence diagram

  • Park: the discussion about 'viewer/reader/dashboard' and the differences in functionality that those terms encompass

  • Has anyone played with the 'sand' demo app? URLs to follow by email

  • First part of the demo:

    • Data Subject interacts with Organization A and as a result, a consent receipt is created and shown to the Data Subject. The consent receipt is stored in a place that is known to the Data Subject.

  • Second part of the demo:

    • Data Subject starts their preferred app which they normally use to view and manage their consent receipts and sees a list of consent receipts that are in the place referenced from the first part of the demo. Data Subject clicks the new consent receipt and the contents are displayed.

  • ACTION: Mark/Sylvester to write functional descriptions of the 'viewer/reader/dashboard' concepts

From 2018-06-21 call:

  • John walked through the draft scenario

  • Mircea: why would the receiving org need to generate a new CR?

    • A: Depends on the interpretation of Article 20 implementation

  • Jim: digi.me's consent feature requires that the data processor notifies the user on downstream sharing

  • Karik: Trunomi allows counterparties to be defined and data sharing rules defined up front. PSD2 scenarios - has 2 consents that are tracked - 3rd party doing payments on behalf and the financial institution

  • ACH: Would it make sense to just do the simplest thing: one data controller mints a CR and a different org displays it.

  • Richard: important to do display and that the back end system is following the CR instructions

  • Jim: digi.me has started work to 'export' a CR artifact. The user might be notified of sharing event.

  • John: starting to think that we should disconnect the demo scenario from any specific regulatory requirement - this should stay a technical demo

  • Robert: agrees - show what you received is what was sent - and show multiple receipts that display in the same way

  • ACH: related that people in unconference sessions are capable of imagining potential uses of CRs - we need to show the simplest functions

  • Kartik: conceptually makes sense - questions on the details about how multiple platforms will play

  • Mircea - need to decide on which systems take on what roles in the demo - which ones create CR, which ones consume & display

  • Richard: in principle it is OK - what does it actually look like to a User - the UX and concept of a CR moving from one place to another - there is no metaphor for this yet

  • Oscar: does not have viewer yet - so this would help to have some else's viewer to use

  • Mark: is the CR moved directly by the back end or are the actions done by the User.

  • ACH: has lined up a mobile operator as a issuer of CRs - but they have no viewer - they need the user to use someone else's viewer

  • ACH: need to do a storyboard

  • Robert: the metaphor should probably be the same as physical receipt management - one place to view them

  • ACTION: Richard to sketch a story board for this

  • ACTION: Kartik to ask questions around how consent management platforms - send to email - includes sequence diagram

  • Mircea - is each consent receipt unique? and should it stay at the originator org? then the only thing transfered would be the CR id?

  • ACTION: Jim - to list some of the high level activities that digi.me is undertaking

  • Mark: OpenConsent is planning to have a Viewer by August

  • Possible distinction: A Viewer - look at CRs one at a time. Dashboard - look at multiple CRs and act on them.

From 2018-06-14 call:

  • Jim: any project wanting to participate in the MyData consent receipt interop demo - we need you do do a mapping against the CR fields - there is a spreadsheet!

  • Need to ensure that the Use Case spotlights the user-centric approach. A motivator to show vendor-vendor interop is to demonstrate industry resilience.

  • Since the CR will contain personal data (and probably sensitive data) we must avoid giving the impression that we are unware of risks and anti-patterns.

  • There are 10 weeks remaining until presentation day!

  • Next week's call:

    • Confirm the high-level scenario for the demo

      • Should this be limited to exchange of CRs? or showing data transfer that involves CRs

    • Discuss and finalize a sequence/interaction diagram

      • Confirm the CR-related roles required for the demo (Display-ers/dashboards, the Person, CR Issuers)

    • Richard Gomer is committed to the project (per Chris ) - will have input into the UX issues

      • The Consentua WebSDK demonstrator has embodied some of these concepts

    • Pre-work assignments (due for distribution to the WG by Tuesday):

      • John - will develop a draft sequence diagram