Date
2019-02-07
Status of Minutes
Approved
Approved at: 2019-12-12 Meeting notes (CR) DRAFTAttendees
Voting
Non-Voting
- Peter Davis
- Sneha Ved
- David Turner
- Jan Linquist
- Sal D'Agostino
- Paul Knowles
- Colin Wallis
Regrets
Quorum Status
Meeting was <<<>>> quorate
Voting participants
Participant Roster (2016) - Quorum is 6 of 11 as of 2018-11-19
Iain Henderson, Mary Hodder, Harri Honko, Mark Lizar, Jim Pasquale (C), John Wunderlich (VC), Andrew Hughes (VC), Oscar Santolalla, Richard Gomer, Paul Knowles, Samantha Zirkin
Discussion Items
Time | Item | Who | Notes |
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4 mins | | | - EIC and Identiverse speaker proposals status
- Status: Wiki refresh work
- Status: Distribution-version of slide deck describing the work here (consent receipt today → personal data processing receipt tomorrow - or whatever we decide)
- Discuss EIC demo and scheduling
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5 min | | All | Please review these blogs offline for current status on Kantara and all the DG/WG: There is a wiki page that will hold all the known implementations of Consent Receipts - Please update the page or inform Jim, or John, or Andrew of your implementation. - TIIME, Vienna, February
- EIC, Munich, May
- Identiverse, Washington, June
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30 min | Product roadmap for the demo | All | Here's the project page for the "Demo v2" THESE NOTES ARE FROM 2019-01-31 CALL AND ARE DIRECT-EDIT-UPDATED FROM 2019-02-07 CALL
Andrew's personal opinion on what to highlight: - The fact that giving the person tools necessary for them to keep records (the 'receipts') about their data controller & personal data processing interactions is a new thing in the world
- The ability for the person to take action because they have these records in their possession - the Privacy Control Panel
- The fact that interoperability standards allow many products to work in an 'ecosystem' way
- Even if the audience does not believe that the lawful basis of consent will become a mainstream thing, the person-side record keeping idea is a good one that has broad applicability
Comments: - This opens the door to ongoing management of the relationship by the person with the data controller/other
- The consent receipt is also a Notice
- People have an independent record of the interaction in the receipt
- Have hard receipts gone away because they are viewed as 'too much friction'? Is this dangerous?
Decisions needed: - The specific set of user stories we want to showcase - what is the "Consent Journey" of the person?
- The roles that each product will cover in the demo
From the project page, the product roles were stated as: Role | Functionality | Product |
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PCP Dashboard | Dashboard - view and organize receipt from multiple sources |
| Control Panel Function | The part where a person clicks on a button that causes the Receipt Management Platform to take action |
| Receipt management platform | Communication substrate - e.g. one possible function: when user clicks on button to exercise a data subject right, this calls the platform which sends instructions to the data controller to take action | digi.me | Receipt generator (API?) | Might be part of the receipt management platform? | digi.me? Ubisecure | Data controller application | in Demo v1 it was the Bookstore app | Airside? Ubisecure | Data controller registration |
| Maybe OpenConsent? digi.me | Receipt Viewer app |
| Airside? | Receipt language translator | Display the receipt in a different language e.g. French |
| Receipt storage facility | "wallet" concept; Downloads folder; browser storage; etc | digi.me (consent manager) |
Comments (2019-02-07): - Jim: all should work on the Export function to allow others apps to view
- Andrew: what are we able to show that tells the audience that there is something new coming to the world - where people can see the receipts and take an action that is recognized and acted on at a data controller.
- The Control Panel idea is powerful
- Maybe the user click transfers control over to the receipt issuer's app
- In digi.me ecosystem there is an app that allows the user to look into their private library
- there are 3rd party apps - these 3rd party apps use the digi.me APIs and issue the Kantara-compliant consent receipts.
- The receipt is shown in the user's digi.me management console
- So, if the user takes an action on that receipt in the digi.me management console, the 3rd party app receives the signal and can act
- digi.me: https://developers.digi.me and https://developers.digi.me/consent-access
- Peter to sketch up a rough sequence
Comments (2019-01-31): - The discrete functions need to be identified
- Receipt issuers should be enrolled in advance (data controller should be known)
- Can we show multiple wallets that hold receipts?
- Should build on the flow of the Demo v1 - person does stuff, gets receipts, sees them, acts on them
- Is the 'wallet' (a.k.a. the receipt storage location) singular or multiple?
- Sphere app can display receipts from their own storage locations
- Digi.me only shows receipts within their system
- Jim is pushing engineering towards the idea that the 'control panel' should be able to work on receipts in other app storage locations
- Passing control over a receipt (to act on a receipt and manage it going forward) to a 3rd party breaks the security concept of digi.me and Sphere's apps
- Exporting a receipt is possible, but action on the exported receipt might require a redirect back into the Sphere app
- This is probably the same with all app ecosystems
- Jan - looking at the topic of using the receipt as a data schema but also using the universal namespace/identifiers (a.k.a. Decentralized Identifiers) to reference the entities and object might allow for broader interoperability
- Peter: we lack the protocols for operations on the receipts themselves - maybe do this in Kantara
- Jan - last week call - Paul and Jan presented on the Hyperledger Indy work for interop
- Remember that we are limited by what exists today - a list of JSON files
- The 'take action' function might be a simple "open URL in the receipt issuer's app"
- Action: Andrew to draw an information flow diagram for discussion for the demo
- Action: ALL - to think about the functionality that your products can do today in light of the "Privacy Control Panel" idea - we will try to do a heat map to try to sort out role assignments and find gaps
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Deferred | Specification update approach |
| See a flowchart version of this here: https://share.mindmanager.com/#publish/b-DWOcuKGnVY1PXBKXTpL0-DQOeqmZMGfGUAPiC5 |
15 min | AOB |
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