2017-11-30 Meeting notes (CR)

2017-11-30 Meeting notes (CR)

Date

2017-10-26

Status of Minutes

Approved

Approved at: 2019-12-12 Meeting notes (CR) DRAFT

Attendees

Voting

 

Non-Voting

  • Chris Cooper

  • David Turner

  • Robert Lapes

  • Colin Wallis


Regrets

Quorum Status

Meeting was quorate

 

 

Voting participants

Participant Roster (2016) - Quorum is 5 of 9 as of 2017-11-20

Iain Henderson, Mary Hodder, Harri Honko, Mark Lizar, Jim Pasquale, John Wunderlich, Andrew Hughes, Rupert Graves, Rachel O'Connell

Discussion Items

Time

Item

Who

Notes

Time

Item

Who

Notes

4 mins

  • Roll call

  • Agenda bashing

@Former user (Deleted)

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1 min

  • Organization updates

All

Please review these blogs offline for current status on Kantara and all the DG/WG:

There is a new wiki page that will hold all the known implementations of Consent Receipts - Please update the page or inform Andrew of your implementation.

30 min

Recent events updates

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UMA WG joins the call

All

  • Eve outlined the joint agenda

  • CIS WG described current status of the work

    • the v1.1 draft has passed WG ballot and is getting ready for 45-day public review now

    • there are several known implementations

    • David described some of the technical details of the spec

    • there is a loose roadmap going forward

      • Contribution to ISO

      • Forking a 'personal data privacy receipt' concept

      • Further development for specific use cases

  • UMA WG Presented on current status

    • UMA v2.0 is at all-member ballot stage right now

    • In UMA 1 there was 'core' plus 'resource set registration' - but it was a bit of a fragment

    • UMA 2.0 is 2 documents ('Grant' and 'Federated Authorization') - different reorganization of the content from v1

      • UMA (core) is now written an extension grant of OAuth - a thin layer on top of OAuth - easier for OAuth developers to use

      • Fed Authz is now an 'optional module' of UMA v2

      • Read the introductions to learn about what each doc covers

    • UMA extension now allows an asynchronous access policy - defining conditions for a future requesting party to meet. OAuth today is a synchronous access policy - when you go to grant access the user must permit or deny immediately

      • Note that UMA conceives of the Authorization Server to be distinct from the Resource Server. Also the Resource Owner is a different entity from the Requesting Party.

      • Eve describes it as similar to granting access to Google docs

    • UMA github has a 'shoebox' endpoint bunch of issues where 'receipts' and other notifications can be posted

      • What can be proven with an audit trail?

      • The consent receipt is based on research into privacy compliance commonality - notice and consent are the most frequent point of commonality with respect to transparency

        • It captures the notice requirements for consent

  • Note that in the regulations, there is no real concept for person-person data protection

    • But the 'licensing' concept in UMA Legal is the groundbreaking aspect here - it allows for a person-person concept

    • Consentua's platform allows a business to plug in and get data from a person

      • There is a shift in regulation so that the person 'owns' the data, not the business

      • Adoption is driven by commercial need - has to be easy to consume and allow engineers to build the tools for this new orientation

  • Could the UMA AS be a place to 'send' receipts?

    • A 'shoebox API'

  • Andrew starts to talk about role mapping between 'data controller & data processor & data subject' language from CR to 'Resource Owner, Resource Server, Requesting Party, Authorization Server' of UMA

  • Andrew asked if we could look at a use case where the Resource is Personal Data?

    • Eve proposed the Origo use case (pensions data)

  • Andrew posits that when a data subject and data controller agree on a data access or transfer, the data controller should be prepared to issue a consent receipt

    • Eve proposes a 'role state transition matrix'

    • Whenever a data subject and data controller come to agreement, a receipt should be issued