UMA telecon 2023-01-05

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Last updated: Jan 05, 2023
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UMA telecon 2023-01-05

Date and Time

Agenda

  • Approve minutes since UMA telecon 2022-06-30

  • 2023 planning & discussion

  • Leadership elections

  • FAPI and UMA next steps. OAuth compatible UMA version

  • AOB

Attendees

  • NOTE: As of Sept 15, 2022, quorum is 3 of 5. (Peter, Sal, Alec, Eve, Steve)

  • Voting:

    • Alec

    • Steve

  • Non-voting participants:

    • Hanfei

    • Scott

    • Domenico

  • Regrets:

    •  

Quorum: No

 

Meeting Minutes

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Topics

 

2023 planning & discussion

 

For identos, using UMA in healthcare (hospital and provincial). Looking for how to promote UMA within the US healthcare, how it fits within the sequoia/onc/carin/direct trust

Health: direct trust federated identity gateway aligned with UMA requirements/spec.

Healthcare + Finance, many consumers with data relationships. Desire to empower self-service vs staff managed sharing + access.

UMA + FAPI, still believes UMA works with FAPI, however, making UMA directly compatible with OAuth/OIDC makes this trivial/obvious.

 

Consumer in the driver's seat → bring your own app.
How do trust registry and BYOA concepts work together? eg UDAP requires clients to have attestation

 

What about Verifiable Credentials? starting to feel an inflection point

eIDAS, user-carried credentials able to be presented? New regulation may lead to FAPI/VC requirements

mDL, showed VC alignment for web presentation using the openid4vc. Not clear how UMA works with mDL

 

Can we get an update from UK Pensions Dashboard?

 

Tentative 2023 roadmap:

  • 120 A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template)

    • openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile)

    • 123 Pensions Dasboard Report → use-case is well understood and live/going live soon. tight use-case

    • 127 Open Banking Report → requires more research, determine use case

      • Who would lead this/ needs this for UMA in open banking contexts? Should come after FAPI review?

  • 130 IDPro knowledge base articles

  • 140 Wikipedia article refresh

 

UMA leadership elections upcoming

 

 

FAPI and UMA next steps - OAuth compatible UMA version

https://fapi.openid.net/  

Marked up UMA spec: UMA telecon 2022-10-20

Last discussion:UMA telecon 2022-10-27 , UMA telecon 2022-12-08

 

 

AOB

 

 

 

Potential Future Work Items / Meeting Topics

  • 20 Confluence clean up, archive old items and promote the latest & greatest

    • 10 UMA glossary – Steve has started 

  • 100 FAPI Review (FAPI + UMA) 

    • scope: how the FAPI work could be applied to UMA ecosystems

    • review may inform what profiling work is required, eg if UMA must support PAR to work with FAPI

  • 120 A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template)

    • openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile)

    • 123 Pensions Dasboard Report → use-case is well understood and live/going live soon. tight use-case

    • 127 Open Banking Report → requires more research, determine use case

      • Who would lead this/ needs this for UMA in open banking contexts? Should come after FAPI review?

  • 130 IDPro knowledge base articles

  • 140 Wikipedia article refresh

  • 150 Minor profiling work,

    • resource scopes → scopes 

    • PAR as dynamic scopes eg fhir query params

    • policy manager & policy description

    • 110 pushed claims types: templates + profiles (beyond IDTokens): 171 VCs, 113 consent, policy, mDL

      • use-case, consent as claims (needs_info),

        • if the client has gathered RqP consent, can it be presented to the AS

        • the policy to access a resource says "you must have agreed to this TOS/consent"

        • compare to interactive claims gathering where the AS would present this consent/TOS to the RqP

        • intersection with ANCR/consent receipt/trust registry work in other Kantara groups

  • 170 UMA + Verifiable Credentials

    • how would VCs work in an UMA ecosystem? How could VCs be used as claims in UMA

    • There are openapi specs for VC formats

    • Could UMA protect a VC presentation or issuance endpoint?

    • There's a lot of openid4vc profiles 

  • 300 mDL + UMA

    • scope: how mDL could work in UMA ecosystems, how mDL could be a claim to UMA 

    • is there a role for UMA in token fabrication and referencing it as the RS?

  • 600 Review of the email-poc correlated authorization specification

  • 500 UMA + GNAP https://oauth.xyz/specs/ 

    • would we have an UMA GNAP version (eg extension of GNAP or UMA? UMAonGNAP) 

    • will GNAP meet all the UMA outcomes?

  • UMA 2 playground/sandbox

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