UMA WG

1st

@Alec Laws (LC Chair)

Y

UMA WG

2nd

Steve Venema

ANCR WG

1st

@Salvatore D'Agostino (Unlicensed)

Y

ANCR WG

2nd

Mark Lizar

IA WG

1st

@Andrew Hughes 

Regrets

IA WG

2nd

Yehoshua Silberstein

Y

RUIP WG

1st

@Thomas e Sullivan, MD (Unlicensed) 

RUIP WG

1st

@Jim Kragh 

Y

PEMC WG

1st

@John Wunderlich 

Y

PEMC WG

2nd

@Christopher Williams 

DeepfakesDG

Denny Prvu

DeepfakesDG

Jay Meier

Board Rep

Mike Engle

Board Rep

Eric Thompson

LC Vice Chair

@jim pasquale

Kantara

-

Kay Chopard

Y

Karyn Bright

Kimberly Miller

Amanda Gay

Y

Guests

Jim P

Y

Michael Magrath

Meeting Administration

Roll Call

IPR Announcement

Agenda Confirmation

Minutes confirmation

Organizational Update

Executive Director and Staff Report

Thanks to everyone who provided updated slides for Kay's use at EIC!

LC Chair Report

New Business

Liaison Report

Proposals for new groups

New Groups

Board Update

AOB

WG/DG Updates (Additional)

• ANCR - Anchored Notice and Consent Receipt

• IAWG – Identity Assurance 

• UMA

• PEMC

• RIUP - Resilient Identifiers for Underserved Populations 

• DeepfakesIDV 

Long-running Topics

Action Items Review

Marketing

Policies & Procedures update

Tips and Tricks

2023 Project Funding

Document repo/Publications Library

Kantara-presence Events

RIUP DII Report – updated for LC review

Open

Please review before the next call! We will vote to approve this document for publication if there are no further revisions

Send any feedback to Jim K or Tom Jones directly via email

Discussion: Kantara publication guide for responsible use of AI

Context: 

Current Group use

• Has used it personal for first-drafts/idea generation, not officially in the WG

• x2: Has used it to edit existing copy, or turn rough content into a more polished language, more sophisticated grammerly

• None, all content generated by people today

• Has been used only when already have solid knowledge of the topic

concern, putting content into chat-gpt releases it for free/unrestricted use by openAI/chatgpt. IPR concerns. Some have used personal AI with co-pilot that has clearer IPR setup

risk, human in the loop fallacy, saying that a human will review all AI output doesn't have intended outcome, human is likely to trust the AI vs do additional checking 

risk, using content from AI may be taken from other sources and violate IP/plagarism. 

Possible Guidelines for Report writers/editors:

• (tool selection) transparency on the harvesting of data in the model, where did the AIs information come from, can it properly attribute it's sources

• (tool selection) how would we evaluate the quality of the AI being used

• provide a editor's checklist on use of AI tools during submission for approval

  • did you use AI tool at all?

  • what tools did you use? was it on the approved list?

  • did you use them for proofing?

  • did you use AI to generate unmodified content based on a prompt? (get more than you put in)

  • did you use AI earlier in the research/scoping process?

  • was final product reviewed solely by humans?

• provide a notice with the publication as result of checklist

Q: should we put a poll out to the membership about use of AI in production of Kantara reports? Or put it out to our workgroups and bring responses back?

Action item, each chair will poll their group at and upcoming meeting and bring results back at the next LC monthly call (or via mailing list)
"Have you used Chat-gpt or other AI tools to help generate or contribute to any group content or reports?"

LC 2024 Elections

Chair Nominations: Alec Laws

Vice-Chair Nominations: John Wunderlich

Secretary Nominations: Sal D'Agostino

John moves to approve the 2024 LC leadership, Jim K seconds. No objections, motion passes by acclimation

Policy on AI transcribers

Policy on the Use of Automated Transcription Tools

make it clear that transcription was used during a call in the main minutes

transcription not necessarily a good thing vs edited/filtered note taking, edited transcription is a big job

alternative, anyone is free to record/transcribe calls today. the policy could make it clear that personal notes/transcription can only be used for X and not for Y. 

people do join groups and declare they're recording, but questions about use typically come up

• should be declared, clear use and retention

• human beings change behaviour when they know their recording, it would change the nature of group activities if there's ubiquitous recording

what are we trying to achieve with the policy?

• protect members and give safe space to speak

• give chairs something to point to when there is inappropriate use of automated tools

• would recording or transcription affect members' ability to join e.g. as they renew their membership

Operating Procedures Review & Updates

AOB

• NIST released annual report from privacy and security group

• Reminder: we have a shared presentation where groups can provide periodic updates: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1erI__TbqAzljamF00tIgQr8ieX_lcweq/edit#slide=id.g1ec561ca724_0_20 

Events with Kantara presence

https://kantarainitiative.org/events/

** Not listed on Kantara site yet