2020-10-01 Minutes

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Last updated: Oct 13, 2020

Attendees

Mark Hapner; Martin Smith; Ken Dagg; Mark King; Richard Wilsher. Jimmy Jung; Sarah Chu; Colin Wallis, Ruth Puente

Quorum: As of 2020-08-13, quorum is 4 of 6. There was quorum


Agenda

  1. Administration:
    1. Roll Call
    2. Agenda Confirmation
    3. Action Item Review: action item list
    4. Minutes approval 2020-09-10 DRAFT Minutes
    5. Staff reports and updates - September Newsletter ;  PR about SAFE-Kantara Collaboration Agreement
    6. LC reports and updates
    7. Call for Tweet-worthy items to feed (@KantaraNews)

2. Discussion

a. Final Review of Comments on the eIDAS Regulation

b. Criteria Guidance (Any participant suggestions for adding or enhancing guidance for understanding assessment criteria) - Review and approve suggested change for 63B#0010. 


Minutes Approval 

Motion: To approve 2020-09-10 DRAFT Minutes. Moved: Mark Hapner; Seconded: Mark King. Unanimous approval.


Staff reports and updates

  • Colin shared the PR about SAFE-Kantara collaboration agreement, and said that they created a new organization called SAFE Identity. He commented that they recognize Kantara’s capability and expertise in the non-PKI area. 
  • He commented that he is on the Advisory Board of Think Digital Partners, which is a UK conference, and that he is writing about legislation on digital identity. 
  • Ken commented that SAFE-Kantara collaboration agreement is a major step forward in a very strategic space.


LC reports and updates

  • Ken said there is an mDL draft charter for privacy in the mDL space, in essence that is being voted by LC. The new discussion group is going to generate a report about dealing with privacy in the mDL. Ken encouraged the participants to get involved on this.

 

Discussion

Final Review of Comments on the eIDAS Regulation 

  • Ken commented that the comments that Mark has been working on are due tomorrow.
  • Mark mentioned that the main point here is that the European Commission, a week before the end of the consultation, announced a completely new way of doing things. They are planning to propose identification at European level rather than national level, he suggested to read page 36 of the Economist. 
  • Ruth said that the European Commission knows Kantara Europe from the NGI community/H2020 R&D funding, because Kantara is running NGI Trust projects along with other partners. 
  • Ken clarified that these comments are being reviewed by Kantara experts within the Assurance working group and he suggested to add "international" after "open".
  • Mark thanked the team for the support.
  • Motion: To approve IAWG comments on eIDAS. Moved: Martin Smith; Seconded: Richard Wilsher. Unanimous approval.


Criteria Guidance - Review and approve suggested change for 63B#0010

  • Ken said he overlooked one comment in the preparation of the 63B Service Assessment Criteria before releasing into the All Member ballot. He apologized for that error.
  • Richard explained that he came up with a very simple new criterion “The CSP SHALL authenticate a Claimant at at least the requested AAL”.
  • Ken asked to go back to the NIST requirement. Richard said this is one of those vague NIST requirements. Richard clarified that what really matters is the level of Assurance of the credential with respect with the level of Assurance that is being required.
  • Mark said he likes the idea, although he would be interested if anybody knows of the implications if anything is paid for on a case by case basis, whether supplying more than you are asked for it. The position of any provider in the middle is quite messy. Ken said these are technical requirements.
  • Martin pointed out he is fine with the language.
  • Colin remarked that this is a non-material change.
  • Ruth commented that given that the LC ratified the SACs, she suggested to notify LC Chair about this material change and to explain about all the commercial pressure on this due to CSPs are waiting to be assessed against the new and revised criteria. Ken will write an email to Andrew explaining the situation.
  • Motion: To approve revised criteria 63B#0010. Moved: Jimmy Jung; Seconded: Mark Hapner. Carried unanimously with one abstention (Richard Wilsher abstained).