DRAFT 2016-10-19 Meeting Notes

Date

2016-10-19

Attendees

• The list of attendees as extracted from the google doc here: https://tinyurl.com/h55ajhz

Agenda

• Administrative Business
• ID Pro Timeline reminder
• Survey Results Overview
• Open Discussion of Survey Results

Discussion Items

• Administrative
  • Note that once there is an elected secretary for the DG, we will stop recording the DG calls and rely on meeting notes
  • Nominations period still open until 5pm Eastern today
• Timeline
  • 18 weeks to go until RSA and goal of announcement
• Survey results review
  • Ian gives a high level overview of the survey methodology
  • Presented brief outline of Q1-4 and the essence of the response & pie chart breakdown

Discussion of survey results

• • Question 2: Vision statement
    • "Value" - many interpret this as only 'commercial' - perhaps use the term "utility" or similar instead.
      • Need to test if 'utility' translates well into other languages
    • "Digital" services - is it redundant? or should this be for all types of services?
      • General comments - strike 'digital' from 'services' but leave "digital identities" alone
    • "High Value" - might be self-limiting. Who decides the value level?
      • Suggestion to use a different kind of metric "trusted identities" or "low-risk" identities - to allow for differentiation considerations
    • Note that the value statement is about the 'future state of digital identity' - should be about the future association
      • ACTION: Andrew Hughes to post a revised vision statement to the mailing list
  • Question 3: Mission statement
    • The statement is a better statement of 'organization' focus rather than 'industry' descriptive
    • The statement is a reasonable encapsulation of the "why" of the organization
    • Consider using "confidence" instead of "trust" to avoid a term that is hard to measure
      • Relatively balanced opinion on the chat between "trust" and "confidence"
        • "Confidence is typically associated with ID proofing while trust tends to aggregate several processes."
        • "i suggest "trusted identity" should be a thing, confidence is a metric in how well the identity might be performing."
        • "to me trust implies yes/no (100% or not) while confidence implies a level (possibly 95%)"
        • "Now that I think about it, trust is usually used to refer to a relationship. Assurance, maybe?"
          • "I think assurance is even more overloaded. Especially if you bring in the 'high-assurance' identity crowd.... which we will...."
    • "Digital Services" - maybe say "services enabled by digital identity"
      • Or "delivery of services" not just "services"
      • Or "services and products that are enabled by digital identity"
      • Need to consider generation of 'identity information' as well
    • Enumerated list issue again: this could cause a limitation and constraint on our scope
      • We will need a living definition of "digital identity"
        • "maybe we need a living definition of 'digital identity'; maybe this is an output from the group, and helps to educate both the profession and our adjacent/relying industries about what this is."
    • Q: what's the audience for the Mission Statement? ourselves? 
      • The Mission should be of the Organization to ourselves as direct constituents - "I recognize myself in the statement - I'm one of those"
    • Q: Are we deliberately leaning to "access management" vs IAM?
      • A: No, and this is an issue with the enumerated list approach
    • If we say that the Organization "defines" the Profession, does this mean that we prescribe it or should the org be reactive to what's already going on
      
      • Q: "Do we assume that the Profession the same thing as the Organization?"
      • Depends on who the audience is 
      • "Define" is problematic - because there will always be practitioners/professionals that are not part of the Organization
        • Will probably have to refine this relative to future Certifications offered
  • Suggested Mission for discussion on list: "To advance the practice and profession of digital identity to enhance the delivery of services and products enabled by identity"

Next meeting

Wednesday October 26, 2016 at 12:00 noon Eastern Daylight Time (UTC -4h)

*** NOTE: US Daylight Saving Time ENDS November 6 2016 - for other regions, the meeting time will appear to shift on your calendars - please make the adjustment as needed

Action Items

• Former user (Deleted) Start threads on the mail list for each Question
• All: look into how other professional associations define their mission and feed back into the list
• Former user (Deleted) Propose a reworked Vision statement that is for the Organization (not the industry) at a time horizon of ~7 years
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