DGAM Telecon Tuesday 6 December 2011 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC

Attendees

• Sal D'Agostino
• Keith Hazelton
• Heather Flanagan
• Bob Sunday

Agenda

1. Administrative
a. Roll Call
b. New member introduction
c. Motion for minutes approval: Minutes 2011-12-06 2011-11-08 (Do we want to do this as DG? It is not required)
d. Agenda confirmation
e. Action item review
i. 20111108-04: all: to review the eGov requirements and see what information can be used/discussed at next call, Colin to send link
ii. 20111206-01: Keith to add links to Social2SAML
iii. 20111206-02: Heather to report on Mapping the Identity Ecosystem workshop, Amsterdam
iv. 20111206-03: Colin to provide liaison with OASIS Trust Elevation
f. 90 Day deliverable
i. Identify gaps in attribute landscape,

2. Discussion Topics
a. Mapping attributes to providers where the don’t match (Identify attributes mismatches)
i. content difference
ii. name difference
b. Social2SAML gap

3. AOB

1. Administrative

• Action Item Review
  • 20111108-04: all: to review the eGov requirements and see what information can be used/discussed at next call, Colin to send link DONE
  • 20111206-01: Keith to add links to Social2SAML DONE
  • 20111206-02: Heather to report on Mapping the Identity Ecosystem workshop, Amsterdam In Progress
    • verbal report given, partial notes sent to list, full report to be provided as meeting output is released
    • particular item of interest out of the notes from the workshop: Verizon spent 3 million euro last year doing market analysis on the question of size/shape of the identity market versus the attribute market. Determination that the attribute market is 3x bigger than the IdP market. Note that there is no standard model for analyzing these markets, so they used the closest model they felt applied: advertising market.
    • New Action item: 20111220-01: Keith to send notes on discussion of the Mapping workshop from the Internet2 MACE-Dir call
    • New Action item: 20111220-02: Heather to add notes from the workshop breakout session on attributes to the wiki
    • New Action item: 20111220-03: Sal to update Current Industry Efforts to the OIX attribute working group and the OASIS trust elevation group
    • New Action item: 20111220-04: Keith - add a link to the Internet2/Kuali-Rice/registry group working on a data model to Current Industry Efforts
  • 20111206-03: Colin to provide liaison with OASIS Trust Elevation - leaving open for next call

2. 90-day deliverables

• Identify gaps in attribute landscape,
  * Mapping attributes to providers where the don’t match (Identify attributes mismatches)?
  ** content difference?
  • name difference
• Social2SAML gap
  • (Keith) once the protocol wars are done, gateways will no longer be necessary; can we have consistent ways of representing social identity providers in SAML assertions?
  • (Heather) In Japan, the need is for a SAML2Social gateway
  • (Sal) Likely outcome is a need for normalization - how would one take this on? do we want to just create recommendation for one/several working groups? Do we want a white paper? Determine which gaps have no one working on them?
  • (Sal/Heather) meta observation - the closed nature of OIX would mean that not all the natural stakeholders can be at the table

• New Action item: 20111220-05: Sal to have an attribute gap session at IIW in January and report back
• New Action item: 20111220-06: Sal to report back on the "13+3" DOD attributes

• (Heather) Need to have something by mid-February that documents the initial set of gaps, reporting on who is doing what, what is missing, initial recommendation
  • New Action item: 20111220-07: Heather to have initial write up by February 14 call

3. Any Other Business... Adjourn

Next Meeting

• Expect a brief touch-base on January 3, just to stay on schedule (note there will be a new service in use by that time)

• Tuesday 6 December 2011 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC
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