AMDG Meeting Notes 2012-06-19

Date and Time

  • Date: Tuesday, 19 / 06 / 2012
  • Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC

Attendees

  • Sal D'Agostino
  • Keith Hazelton
  • Heather Flanagan (scribe)
  • Ken Dagg

Quorum: 6 of 8

Non-voting:

  • Colin Souter

Apologies

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Agenda

AGENDA:

  1. Administrative
    1. Roll Call
    2. New member introduction - no new members
    3. Agenda confirmation
    4. Approval of Minutes: AMDG Meeting Notes 2012-06-05
    5. Action item review
  2. Discussion
    1. Deciding our own next steps
      1. refining gaps and recommendations,
      2. determining what should be handled by existing groups vs. what will require a new group
    2. F2F in DC - Aug 8-10
    3. Latest Attribute Management news

Minutes of last meeting not approved; call not at quorum

Open Action Items

Action Item Review : (*Action Items numbered as *YYYYMMDD-01 Assignee : description....)

Action Item

Assigned To

Description

Status

Comments

20120508-06

Heather

collect input from LC and incorporate any suggestions in to report

 

Will discuss on 20-June LC call

20120605-01

Sal

Sal to post slides to the list from outreach to OIX-AX and Trust Elevation WG

Complete 
20120605-02HeatherBring to the people coordinating the P3WG, HIAWG, IAWG, and ADMG the feedback from 2012-06-05 call Will discuss on 20-June LC call

 

New Action Item

Action Item Review : (*Action Items numbered as *YYYYMMDD-01 Assignee : description....)

Action Item

Assigned To

Description

20120619-01Sal, KeithDraft a new WG charter for Attribute Management
20120619-02SalPost links to the UK tenders in the repository


General discussion

Deciding our own next steps

  1. refining gaps and recommendations,
  2. determining what should be handled by existing groups vs. what will require a new group

Heather's suggestions:

  • A new attribute working group with the mandate of defining context and clarifying use; this will also probably get in to definitions
    • This will include continuing to develop the repository
    • If we want to go this route, need to follow the By-Laws for the creation of a new group (see section 5.3 of the KI Bylaws) - Keith Hazelton, Sal D'Agostino will work on a charter
      • (Ken) suggest that a charter remain Draft until the F2F in August, since hopefully the scope of various working groups may get defined there
  • For the Definitions and general coordination, recommend we continue to use the cross-WG meta-group of the P3WG, IAWG, HIAWG, and the Attribute group (no new group)
  • For "Trust Frameworks" gap, recommend we pass this over to the Trust Framework Meta Model WG
  • For Governance, formally pass this over to the ISOC group working in this space
    • (Sal) there needs to be coordination among the various groups working the attribute issue
    • if we recommend this route, there needs to be more in the repository linking the ISOC work
  • For Mechanisms, perhaps the NSTIC group?  Thinking of the Scalable Privacy proposal which will be tackling these issues
    • (Colin) concern with going with NSTIC is the non-global nature of the work
    • (Keith) need to think about what we actually mean when we say "NSTIC" - this might be better to go to federation operators or something
    • (Sal) OIX might be a better place; in either case, we won't be tackling mechanism

F2F in DC - Aug 8-10

Potential attendees:

  • Keith Hazelton
  • Ken Dagg (maybe)
  • Colin Souter (but primarily representing P3WG)

Will there be any practical overlap with the PHI discussion? Probably not

Need to make sure that discussion of a draft charter for an Attribute Management Working Group is on the agenda for this meeting

Latest Attribute Management news

  • Sal - the UK seems to be going ahead with a number of tenders; perhaps we should update the repository with the link to those? Yes - Sal will update

AOB

  • will target the next meeting (July 3) to start drafting the new WG charter

Next Meeting

  • Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2012
  • Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC
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