AMDG Meeting Notes 2012-02-14

Date and Time

• Date: Tuesday, 14 / 02 / 2012
• Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC

Attendees

• Sal D'Agostino
• Keith Hazelton
• Heather Flanagan
• Colin Wallis
• Joanne Knight
• Bob Sunday

Apologies

Agenda

AGENDA:

1. Administrative
a. Roll Call
b. New member introduction - no new members
c. Agenda confirmation
d. Action item review
2. Discussion
a. Report

Open Action Items

Action Item Review : (*Action Items numbered as *YYYYMMDD-01 Assignee : description....)

New Action Item

Action Item Review : (*Action Items numbered as *YYYYMMDD-01 Assignee : description....)

Discussion – Report

• Some struggle with scope, works for people "in the know"
  • AI: Joanne to mark up wiki or send HF email regarding what areas are difficult for someone not embedded in the conversation
• Modification of AI 20111108-04, for HF to make sure that the eGov requirements are represented in the report
• Are we talking about contents or containers when discussing attributes? There is a lot of work at the federation identity level to answer this question, and different protocols approach it differently.
• Feedback on Recommendations
  • Attributes - tying it to real people with LoA, which in turn ties back to Governance
  • Governance - different sectors are doing this, so we have examples in action; UMA should be part of governance, and they are working to fill the gap in user management part of governance
  • Kantara could vet the work coming out of the different groups to make sure it all applies broadly; the specific sector groups don't have a wide-enough view to really see how their would can or cannot scale; in general there is a need for someone to provide assurance around attributes, and since Kantara has an existing assurance program around identity this could be a good fit; if OIX is looking to be where an exchange of these things, they can't also be in the business of auditing and assuring these things; at some point we'll need to describe how to do LoA on attributes and there are repository references to this work, but there is no functioning accreditation effort yet
  • Context - create a discussion group to describe what contexts might be and how they might be used; characterizing them and registering/exposing them, a value needs to be put on context; you might be able to capture more of the liabilities and risk if you know the context
  • Query Language is more like an OASIS or W3C thing than a Kantara thing; too technical for this DG; it plays out here but is not in our mandate
  • part of context, perhaps - Mapping the Attribute Ecosystem: technological and sociological - environmental survey of groups and activities in attribute management space (there are dozens at least) and we know about most; can we go to each of those groups and come back with a 1 paragraph description of where they fit in the attribute management space, where they are orthogonal or overlapping; this should be a prerequisite to the attribute LoA work
• we're trying to see if Attribute Management can actually exist, not discuss what you could do with it

summary of timeline

• next draft based on input from today's call and action items by Feb 28
• by first meeting in March (if not sooner), be able to declare this done enough to send to the LC and prepare for a final edit based on their feedback

Next Meeting

• Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012
• Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC
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