AMDG Meeting Notes 2012-02-28

Date and Time

Date: Tuesday, 28 / 02 / 2012
Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC

Attendees

Sal D'Agostino
Heather Flanagan
Keith Hazelton
Bob Sunday
Joanne Knight
Colin Wallis
Ken Dagg

Apologies

Agenda

AGENDA:

1. Administrative
a. Roll Call
b. New member introduction - Kenn Dagg, picking up the reins from Bob Sunday
c. Agenda confirmation
d. Action item review
2. Discussion
a. Report
b. OIX-AX (guest, Don Thibeau)
c. Meeting March 13?

Open Action Items

Action Item Review : (*Action Items numbered as *YYYYMMDD-01 Assignee : description....)

Action Item	Assigned To	Description	Status	Comments
20111108-04	Heather	Review the eGov requirements and see what information can be used/discussed at next call	COMPLETE	all there, tho' not in one place
20111220-01	Keith	send notes on discussion of the Mapping workshop from the Internet2 MACE-Dir call	COMPLETE	nothing substantive to add
20111220-05	Sal	have an attribute gap session at IIW in January and report back	In progress
20111220-06	Sal	report back on the "13+3" DOD attributes	COMPLETE	Did not find this particular reference
20111220-07	Heather	have initial discussion group report ready by February 14 call	In progress	http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/Report+-+DRAFT
20120103-02	Keith	Update SCIM info in repository	COMPLETE	Link that is there sends to the canonical info about SCIM
20120131-01	Sal	Schedule Don Thibeau (OIX-AX) for a DG-AM call in Feb	COMPLETE
20120214-01	Joanne	Update wiki or send HF email regarding areas of report unclear to someone not embedded in this space	COMPLETE

New Action Item

Action Item Review : (*Action Items numbered as *YYYYMMDD-01 Assignee : description....)

20120228-01	Ken	Add concepts regarding granularity of identity/requirements for use
20120228-02	Keith	Add information regarding registry of new attributes, LDAP and X509
20120228-03	all	add more detail to their favorite "efforts in this space" sections in the report
20120228-04	Sal	reach out to the IAWG to request for contribution to the AMDG group

Discussion – Report

Ken: LoA is fine where it is; Colin's question about building on an IAWG experience about this should be answered "YES"; query language question - two parts? a discovery about what an IdP might have, and the other be how to communicate a request/response for attributes; HF: this was about the structure of the request, a fairly technical thing, a query/response that contains information about the attribute; the discovery concept is a valuable contribution there; Keith: the whole SAML metadata standards, and the various federations' standards about that are a step in this direction - that isn't quite a query language, but it's a start; this issue is part of a larger issue about the infrastructure of attributes
Sal: a picture/graphic in this document would be helpful "the Attribute Ecosystem" - the various components required for this to work, what are the gaps between the actors; if not in this document, perhaps somewhere
Colin: the range of concepts discussed so far aren't really reflected in the Query Language section

Ken: what about Context? Should it be looked at from different lenses? HF: each of those different groups has to deal with context, tho' they may not deal with it the same way; Sal: likes the fine-grainedness of the concept

Colin: report can't go out without dropping in LDAP and X509 somewhere, maybe under industry efforts and standards

Joanne: it would be helpful to have more description regarding the efforts; just because there are efforts in that space, doesn't mean they are fully covering the gaps

we will target this to be wrapped up and turned over to the LC by March 27

Don Thibeau - OIX-AX update

unavailable

Next call?

To Be Discussed on the mailing
if we need to move to weekly between now and the end of the month, we'll do that

Next Meeting

Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC
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