Weekly Meeting 2010 09 27 Notes Ratified

Information Sharing GROUP Teleconference

Date and Time

  • Date: 27 September 2010
  • Time: 6am HST | 9 PDT | 12 EDT | 5pm UK
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Attendees

  • Joe Andrieu
  • Iain Henderson
  • Judi Clark (non-voting)

Apologies

Eve Maler
Mark Lizar

Agenda

  1. Attendance
  2. Prior Action Item Review
  3. New Business
  4. pRFP Engagement Model
  5. Information Sharing Report
  6. Action Item Review

Minutes

1. Attendance

We noted that 2 people on the call were voting members and that the group did NOT meet quorum on this call.

2. Prior Action Item Review
  • Joe: info sharing report update to template
  • Iain: PRFP update to template - Templates "publishing template" (search)
  • Iain: Update on TBS proposal
  • All: Please blog about these reports! (About the call for comments)
  • Trent: Touch base with marketing committee (9/28/2010) about PR for reports
  • Joe: Send update to Kantara staff re: elections
3. New Business

none

4. Personal RFP

Joe received a few feedback items on both reports. General feedback: too much/dense materials, too long (in terms of getting feedback), too short a timeframe for receiving comments.

Feedback from Bob: 1) no separate authorization manager. This is a mash-up architecture, and the whole point of these scenarios is to help make the mash-ups seemless. 2) Diff authorization levels: (like a tunneling attack at lower assurance level) - not new. Example: Facebook is not acting as AM, just sends "friends" to requesting sites. MyDex uses local AM model, is hosting info, uses own signed cert of authority. 3) big ticket items: how small before it becomes "too small?" Issue of CRM models as blocking middleware. This architecture is better - internal to a single enterprise, they're already screwed up, could solve their internal problems if they could plug into this new system. Iain's architecture will work around an individual. Side note: Iain intends to make Mydex licensable, perhaps mid-2011, has a working pipeline for this. Judi's non-profit project is interested in licensing.

Re: Dan Perry: Would be good to have a table of trust models (trust, assn, coop, UK community interest, etc.). There's technical trust (what you say) and motivational trust (doing what you say). Trust happens in small bits. End user research: convenience wins over trust, multiple small bits wins trust.

Re: Alan: we punted on search phase and what is good compliance, a good info sharing agreement.

5. Information Sharing Report

No separate feedback received.

6. Action Items Review
  • Joe will reply to Bob's, other feedback
  • Joe and Iain and Judi: talk about getting feedback into official Kantara template, before IIW in Nov.
  • Iain will follow up with Bill Wendell
  • Iain will update on TSB proposal

Next Regular Meeting

4 October 2010
6am Hawaii, 9am Pacific, Midday Eastern, 5pm UK
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