Weekly Meeting 2010 12 13 Minutes Ratified

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Information Sharing GROUP Teleconference

Date and Time

  • Date: 13 Dec 2010
  • Time: 7am HST | 9 PST | 12 EST | 5pm UK
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Attendees

  • Joe Andrieu
  • Iain Henderson
  • Eve Maler
  • Judi Clark
  • Sherrie Noble

Apologies

  • none

Agenda

  1. Attendance
  2. Prior Action Item Review
  3. New Business
  4. Standard Information Sharing Agreements
  5. Action Item Review

Minutes

1. Attendance

We noted that 4 people on the call were voting members and that the group met quorum on this call.

2. Motions
  1. Iain moved, unanimous consent to ratify last week's minutes.
  2. Judi moved, unanimous consent to ratify minutes for Sept 20, 2010.
3. Prior Action Item Review
  • Judi to finish up renaming minutes/notes - done, a few random notes still need to be ratified
  • Joe: send note to LC with links to review papers above - done, approved on Wednesday Dec 8, 2010
  • Joe: Contact Trent re PR for those reports - suggested Joe send thru Eve and other leadership.
  • Joe: Post to email list inviting discussion of the Standard agreement - done, need more engagement on list
  • Joe: draft Quarterly reports (for posting on wiki) - done, Eve also updated
  • Joe: will update group on Add-On Conference -
  • Iain: follow up with Joni re: matched funding requirements for Information Sharing Report funding from 2010 - will ping Joni again
  • Iain: set up a call this week with Joe and Bill - ongoing
  • Iain: UMA-style user story for Sally - started
  • Iain: Anonymized version of Mydex work on the Information Sharing Agreement - covered in UMA story above
  • Mydex: to join OIX - application sent off
3. New Business
  • Joe reported on Add-on Conference: went last and this year, no IE presence this year. Had conversation re: where's oAuth for client-side data? Discussed personal data store as a use case. May take a couple of years to see permissions-based datastore in client, more likely to show up in browsers first. Joe also built a Firefox plug-in that adds a "Show Me" button that shows what info would be shared with Digg. Additional reference from Mozilla Foundation: http://fundingopen.blip.tv/
  • Iain reported that UK gov (Cabinet office) will run an unconference in early 2011 to get feedback. They will be looking to Kantara WGs to participate. Sherrie asked where US participation is.
  • Mark is working on open notice with ISOC. For example: Facebook doesn't have good controls for users to "control" their info.
5. Information Sharing Agreements

Page on wiki Determining How Best to Describe the Content and Data Use Options... (http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Determining+how+best+to+describe+the+content+*+data+use+options+being+made+available+via+the+agreements)

Iain: multiple agreements over different stages of interactions (see Iain's email to WG-InfoSharing list) - discussion about how local authorities collect more info than they're allowed. OECD privacy conference: privacy principles have been around for 30 years, principle of data minimization has been ignored. Sherrie will follow up on US side. Iain suggests a market-based approach rather than courts. Sherrie pointed out that courts around the world need to be educated, issues need to be broadly explored. Could bring solutions into world quickly, next steps need to be started. Joe: mapping of incremental trust to 11 steps to our Engagement Framework. May behoove us to start identifying modalities in prior 5 steps first, build up from that. Iain: language around managed information. Public and private sector worlds work differently. UK Driver's database is roughly 33% out of date. Interesting conversations around fixing data that's non-voluntary, let's not go there. Eve: be careful about tech impact to policy studies (pushing vs. pulling info, caches & throttling). Need to find clear boundaries between tech complexities and policy goals.

Engagement Model (TIFF), Car buying engagement scenario, optionally: Personal RFP engagement scenario

6. Action Items Review
  • Joe: add prior minutes to agenda
  • Joe: move child Notes page
  • Joe: will start draft for Quarterly Report on wiki
  • Eve: emailing staff list, cc to Joe and Iain, re promoting reports - done
  • Iain: follow up with Joni re: matched funding requirements for Information Sharing Report funding from 2010 - will ping Joni again
  • Iain: set up a call this week with Joe and Bill.
  • Iain: UMA-style user story for Sally
  • Mydex: to join OIX follow-up to applications

Next Regular Meeting

20 December 2010
7am Hawaii, 9am Pacific, Midday Eastern, 5pm UK
Skype: +9900827042954214
US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
UK Dial-In: +44 (0) 8454018081
Room Code: 2954214

NO meeting expected on Dec. 27, 2010. Happy holidays!

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