Date

Oct 21, 2015

Attendees

Sal D'Agostino - IRM
Ken Dagg - IA
Mark Lizar - CIS
Mary Hodder - CIS
John Bradley - FI
Pete Palmer - HIA
Joni Brennan - ED Kantara Initiative
Jane Celusak - ISTO

Discussion Items

2 min	Roll Call	Sal D'Agostino	Roll Call was taken.
15 min	Kantara IPR	Sal D'Agostino	IRM would be okay tomove on IPR policy if necessary. Does moving to Rand still meet the needs for collaboration? The needs for collaboration may also consider this for UMA & UMA Dev. This continues to be sorted. The move would not be the most wide open solution but it would not be the worst. There was a discussion that in onboarding new projects WG would opt out. The question is can two IPR regimes exist in a working group depending on what the work is. A group may need outside help to sort this out. The plan will be to draft an understanding of issues and desirables and then have a legal review. If a working group wanted to take CCSA to RAND is this possible with a simple notice? Is it functionally possible to have two kinds of IPR under one working group? This would make qualifying what work is under what IPR. Would having a subworking group with CCSA under a RAND WG just need to have a header on emails identifying the IPR scheme. Does nesting work for this? One problem is that contributions to the group under CCSA governs how the contributions are governed. If the work product is to go out under the CCSA license then the working group would need to work backwards from Share Alike - how do you roll back to contributions when the work product is going out in the world under a license and address the requirements of the second regime? This is a life cycle question. Action Item: Jane to develop a few use cases from Working Group to help the gang of 5 frame the conversation. During the working group updates IPR was further discussed. OASIS has various IPR that working groups get to pick from. Action Item: Joni Brennan to have a discussion about OASIS IPR with Jamie Clark. ITUT may have more than one IPR - utlizing Royalty or Rand. One IPR would be for their own work and one is used with Liaisons with ISO. Royalty free specifications possibly; it was asked if any work product is patentable.
5 min	Minutes	Sal D'Agostino	There was not a quorum at the beginning of the meeting to vote. This changed before the end of the meeting. It was noted that the link in the agenda was broken. This will be fixed. At the end of the meeting the LC had a quorum and the minutes were covered. Motion: Ken Dagg made a motion to accept the minutes of 7 October 2015; Sal D'Agostino seconded the motion. The motion passed with no objections.
15 min	Quarterly Reports		A grid document has been created under the leadership council child pages for WG leaders to link quarterly reports.
2 min	Tools		A tools document will be uploaded onto the wiki.
	Voting		No votes on the Agenda
2 min	Operationalizing the Kantara Theme and Collaboration Update on group IPR - Discussion of IPR in UMA and UMA Dev 2. Trust Services and Connective Life by IPR on Spreadsheet		Eve was not able to be on the call for the UMA Discussion and IPR was discussed at the head of the meeting. Jane will add a link on the agenda to the document on the wiki.
20 min	Working Group Updates		FI - VRM Day is being held next Monday, they will take 2 meetings to set up the user submitted terms, the group and the scope. What is the minimal viable IPR vs output going out under CCSA. They would like the share and share alike provision. Coordinating working with in Common to work on the SAML profile to feed into SAML to end what the American in common want is more than what other federations want. Work is continuing fairly rapidly. In Common meetings are weekly the time line to finish is most likely 6 months. What in Common is putting together for software is more than they may want. IRM - is continuing to rewrite the principles agreed to and will take whatever it is and look at the world for examples. Where IRM actually exists the principles will be checked against those examples to define use cases and ways to measure characteristics of a relationship manager. HIA - In slow motion finishing up online the trust frameworks that overlap in healthcare. There has been light attendance. Mark Coderre is presenting on next weeks call on the work of the NH-ISAC which is similar to what HIAWG is doing. They will give a briefing on the common deliverables and discuss ensuring coordination. IA - No new actions. There is an update to IAF core criteria for ARB and a tool that might help generate for displaying the ARB - IAWG is interested in tools. CIS - Started working on second recent project in the last two weeks. Consent receipt minimal viable user term.
	BoT Liaison Report		There was no BoT report
	Action Item Review		a) Discussion on IPR in UMA and UMA DV on the next call - Eve Maler-ongoing b) Action Item: Sal D'Agostino - This topic will be discussed on the next IRM WG meeting. Noting it is okay to contribute from CC to RAND but not the other way around. -ongoing - Joint LC/Board discussion. c) Action item: Jane to edit the minutes of 8/26/15 as noted. - Closed d) Jane will include KI Privacy Policy and updates regarding the MVCR use in the KI site on the next agenda. Closed as an agenda item Ongoing for Implement as a larger work of Kantara. e) Colin to work with Sal to draft a policy regarding more than one person chairing a WG. This has been started. Robert’s Rules does not apply. Andrew Hughes had an notion that a percentage could be applied. Jane will ask ISTO leadership for advisement.- Closed f) Joint LC/Board discussion. - part of action item B g) Action Item - Pete Palmer to craft a few paragraphs on the HIMSS opportunity to be sent to the LC Working Group Leaders. h) Action Item - The process guidelines for balloting revisions to documents or new documents will be placed on the wiki.
5 min	AOB	Joni Brennan	European WS Trust and IE OECD 2016 support - there will be a number of PR announcements over the next 6 to 8 weeks on the progress of IA and new members. Please retweet. UMA call for comments closes on the 2nd so please do respond and there is a splash on the website regarding this. There is a call for volunteers from the Leadership Council to the Board. Action Item: Jane will email the leadership council regarding a call for volunteers from the LC to the BoT.
2 min	Next Meeting		The next LC meeting will be 29 October 2015.

Action Items

Discussion on IPR in UMA and UMA DV on the next call - Eve Maler-ongoing
Action Item: Sal D'Agostino - This topic will be discussed on the next IRM WG meeting. Noting it is okay to contribute from CC to RAND but not the other way around. -ongoing - Joint LC/Board discussion.
Jane will include KI Privacy Policy and updates regarding the MVCR use in the KI site on the next agenda. Closed as an agenda item Ongoing for Implement as a larger work of Kantara.
Action Item - Pete Palmer to craft a few paragraphs on the HIMSS opportunity to be sent to the LC Working Group Leaders.
Action Item - The process guidelines for balloting revisions to documents or new documents will be placed on the wiki.
Action Item: Jane to develop a few use cases from Working Group to help the gang of 5 frame the conversation.
Action Item: Joni Brennan to have a discussion about OASIS IPR with Jamie Clark.
Action Item: Jane will email the leadership council regarding a call for volunteers from the LC to the BoT.

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