HIA WG Concall 2010-02-25 Minutes

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HIA WG Concall 2010-02-25 Minutes

Date and Time

  • Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010
  • Time: 9am PST | 12pm EST | 5pm UTC | 6pm CEST (Time Chart)
  • Dial-In: Skype: +9900827044630912 - North American Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
  • Code: 4630912

Attendees

  • John Fraser, MEDNETworld.com (voting)
  • Daza Greenwood, eCitizen Foundation (non-voting)
  • Pete Palmer, SureScripts (voting)
  • Daniel Bennett, eCitizen Foundation (non-voting)
  • Rick Moore, eHealth Ohio (voting)
  • Mike Kirkwood, Polka (voting)
  • Rich Furr, Safe Biopharma Association (voting)
  • Dan Combs (non-voting)
  • Bob Pinheiro, Pinheiro Consulting (voting)
  • Jonathan Gerschater (non-voting)
  • Barry Hieb, Global Patient Identitfiers (voting)
  • Alan Nagelberg, CSC (voting)
  • Brett McDowell, PayPal (voting)

Apologies

  • None

We had 9 voting members on the call, it was determined we did not not reach quorum on this call.

Agenda

  1. Welcome and roll call
  2. Update on the planning for the Patient NHIN Portal with eCitizen
  3. Other business

Minutes

1. Welcome and roll call

Roll call and quorum count.

2. Update on the planning for the Patient NHIN Portal with eCitizen

Rich – ONC information out – Policy group has authentication recommendations to the NHIN.  Rich will send to the list.
2-factor and adopting fed architecture are their recommendations.
 
Dazza gave overview of the the project proposal and budget, review slides sent out to the group. (See web site for these slides)
Rich Furr – recommended AL3 be a key part of this project.
Question: is it practical to expect patients to be AL3?
Sal – fastest growing identity theft is in medical identity theft.  Discussed the many reasons why AL3 is important to protect patient privacy.
Dan Combs:  reinforced the discussion in the community about the need for this.
Rich Furr – still see on a global basis, a very strong reluctance on medical practitioners to use anything other than username and password.  Even Level 4 has been recommended.
Dan Combs:  There is a way to get to AL3 over time.  For the purposes of the project, don’t need to decide if AL3 is needed, will be decied by others.
Bob Pinero: Identity proofing is very important.
Daniel Bennet – eCitizen Foundation has the BLT methodology.  Three layers, Business, Legal and Technology layers.  As eCitizen models this project will ensure that the legal and business layers may drive authentication decisions.  Get authentication into a box to allow level of authentication to happen at a business layer, with multiple level os authentication possible.
Dazza Greenwood:  Let the business drivers, using an open architecture, decide on this.
Rich: agrees with that.  EU is wreathing with the same issues, and lots of lessons to be learned from EU medical cards management.  EU still suffering same issues on technology and privacy.
 
Fraser: discussed that NHIN and gov’t support make it the right time to do this.
Brett: what is the formal motion?  Asked Dazza what he needed to move forward?
Dazza: If we agree to move forward, agree to a “teaming agreement”.  Once that is completed, then can move forward
“An agreement to agree”.
Brett: Proposal, we are agreeing under our scope, a specific pilot project for an architecture for patient identity.  Will agree to add this to a project we will work on in partnership with eCitizen Foundation.  We agree in principle to move forward.
Questions about: demo vs. pilot
Dazza: 40k should get a demo, no “smoke and mirrors”, but rough consensus and running code.
 
Brett – Recommend dropping demo, and move to a “Working proof of concept” or “reference implementation”, not demo wording.
Group: “Working proof of concept” is the name of the initial phase.
Barry: Need Phase One schedule.
Dazza: Post funding, eCitizen will focus on schedule.
 
Brett: PayPal will move to agree to eCitizen proposal.
SAFE will second:
 
Much discussion about cleaning up the motion..
 
Brett made an updated motion that: PayPal will move, that this Kantara WG will agree to collaborate with the eCitizen Foundation to define the requirements, specifications and produce a project plan for an open architecture patient identity infrastructure to result in a Working Proof of Concept.
Rich Furr of SAFE BioPharma seconds.
Passed with no objections, at 1:06 pm Central US time.
 

3. Other Business

Note, no call March 4, everyone at HIMSS 2010.  Pick up call Thursday March 18, 2010, 10am PST

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Next Meeting

  • Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010
  • Time: 10am PST | 1pm EST | 6pm UTC | 7pm CEST (Time Chart)
  • Dial-In: Skype: +9900827044630912 - North American Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
  • Code: 4630912

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