HIA WG Concall 2010-04-01 Minutes

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HIA WG Concall 2010-04-01 Minutes

Date and Time

  • Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010
  • Time: 10am PST | 1pm EST | 5pm UTC | 7pm CEST (Time Chart)
  • Dial-In: Skype: +9900827044630912 - North American Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
  • Code: 4630912

Attendees

  • John Fraser, MEDNETworld.com (voting)
  • Daniel Bennett, eCitizen Foundation (non-voting)
  • Dan Combs, Associate of eCitizen Foundation (non-voting)
  • Sal Khan, aTrust (voting)
  • Bob Pinheiro, Pinheiro Consulting (voting)
  • Tim Reiniger, IA Corp VA (non-voting)
  • Barry Hieb, Global Patient Identifiers (voting)
  • Brett McDowell, PayPal (non-voting)
  • Adrian Gropper, MedCommons (voting)
  • Dervla O'Reilly, Kantara Initiative (non-voting)
  • Joni Brennan, Kantara Initiative (non-voting)

Apologies

  • Daza Greenwood, eCitizen Foundation (non-voting)

We had 5 voting members on the call, we did not not reach quorum on this call.

Agenda

  1. Welcome
  2. Minute taker
  3. Quorum
  4. Approval of Minutes
  5. eCitizen Foundation Project update
  6. AOB

Minutes

1. Welcome

Welcome

1. Minute Taker

Chairs to review participation roster and maintain active quorum as of April 1, 2010. Reference previous minutes' attendance.

1. Quorum

It was determined that 5 voting participants were on the call, the group did not reach quorum. (review recent meetings and attendance to maintain accurate quorum list).

1. Approval of minutes

We did not reach quorum to approve minutes from Feb. 25 and March 18.

Discussion about quorum:

  • There was no quorum, so the minutes were not approved on this call.
  • John Fraser introduced Dan Comb who is going to represent the eCitizens project proposal.
  • Brett McDowell asked the co-chairs to talk to non-attendees to reduce quorm needs. Dervla will help complete current quorum.
1. eCitizen Foundation update

Dan started, by introducing Overview and Key Technologies section of project plan

  • Discussion about adding VUHID as a required technology.
  • Barry Hieb, advocated for its inclusion.  Fraser also noted that VUHID follows an ASTM standard, and is incorporated already into the VA system so should be considered.
  • Discussion about how the ICAM includes various technologies.
  • Much discussion and agreement that a Problem Statement should be added.

Other discussion on VUHID and other health
-          VUHID is an attribute that comes in thru these other systems
-          Mike Kirkwood – sees it as joining Patient access and federal interoperability.  Could be used for routing patient ID between systems.
 
Fraser’s asked if OpenID and SAML2.0 are in conflict?
-          Brett McDowell – OpenID only does Level 1.  Need InfoCards or PKI to get to higher levels.  Work at Concordia Group, with Paul Madsen, is trying to move OpenID to these higher levels.
-          Fraser thought that Level 3 assurance is needed in this project and agreed to in earlier calls?
-          Adrien:  Why aren’t we working with Concordia?
-          Barry: Is Concordia working with patient access to NHIN?
-          Adreien:  Concordia is working on joining OpenID to get to level 3 to get compatible.
-          Barry: Concordia should be leaned on, and Adrian was in agreement on that.
-          Mike: Answers aren’t know, but can learn options from Concordia.
 
Fraser – asked Dan to add the Concordia Group liaison as part of the project plan.
Dan – many other groups want to participate as well.
Joni – will put Dan in touch with Paul Madsen at Concordia.
 
Dan – said he would add VUHID, and the Concordia liasoning to plan.
 
Dan then asked for input on the Project Description
 
Barry – put use case in italics.
Fraser – the Use Cases should support the patient meaningful use needs as recommended by Ray Campbell, MHDC.
Bob – question, does NHIN support this use case?
Dan – technically, no, but it must for meaningful use.
Bob – do we have to worry about if NHIN will do this, or we design?
Fraser – we should “worry” and include it in the project.
Dan – Provider to provider is already covered by NHIN.  Adding in patients adds them as a “user” in this process.
 
Discussion around a “lock-box” approach to patient control of their information to share with providers:
Barry – lock-box is one mechanism, but there could be others.
Kickwood – these questions are good for talking to funders.
 
Adrian – need a “problem” statement in the plan.
Dan – obvious we should add that.  Agreement to re-use older slides to add back.
 
Dan then ask for input on the Project Management section:
 
Discussion about senior Kantara people getting involved.  Decided to add Roger Martin, Executive Director, to project management section as a resource.
-          Fraser indicated that Roger has been involved to help on the fundraising process.
 
Schedule and Deliverables Section:
-          General agreement to add scheduled times
 
Value and Benefits Section:
Agreement to add the connection to the problem statement that will be added above.
Kirkwood – code releases, etc. should be announced as an outputs.
 
NEXT STEPS:
Group will edit plan online.  Plan will be put on the Wiki so changes can be monitored.
-          Dan will be editor and people should send him updates, or get his permission to bigger changes.
-          Once on the wiki, the group should be told so they can read/edit it.
-          Deadline for final changes will be a week out.
-          Next call will be to review and approve (we’ll have to get quorum!)

3. Other Business

None

Next Meeting

  • Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010
  • Time: 10am PST | 1pm EST | 5pm UTC | 7pm CEST (Time Chart)
  • Dial-In: Skype: +9900827044630912 - North American Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
  • Code: 4630912

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