DRAFT 2018-03-21 Meeting notes



Status of Minutes


Approved at: <<Insert link to minutes showing approval>>


  1. Call to order
    1. Roll Call & Determination of quorum status
    2. Agenda bashing
    3. Kantara Organization updates 
  2. WG Motions
    1. Motion to approve 2018-03-15 Meeting notes (CR)
    2. Motion to approve DRAFT 2018-02-21 Meeting Notes Consent Management Solutions WG
    3. Motion to approve Draft Charter (CMS)
    4. Motion to elect WG Chair and Vice-Chair
  3. Demonstration/Walkthrough of Notice and Consent flows
    1. iWelcome
    2. digi.me
  4. Upcoming conferences and events
  5. All Other Business (AOB)
  6. Adjourn



  • Corné van Rooij
  • Julian Ranger
  • Jim Pasquale
  • Andrew Hughes
  • Pushpalanka Jayawardhana


  • Joss Langford
  • Chris Olsen
  • Martin Sandren (Nixu)
  • Ken Klingenstein
  • Brad Arlen
  • David Turner
  • James Willett
  • Tom Jones
  • Sal D'Agostino
  • Crt Ahlin
  • Mircea



Quorum Status

Meeting was quorate

Voting participants

Participant roster (CMS) - Quorum is 5 of 9 as of 2018-03-07

(Voting status: Corné van Rooij, Jim Pasquale, Julian Ranger, Andrew Hughes, Mark Hapner, Tony Fish, Pushpalanka Jayawardhana, Mark Lizar, John Wunderlich)

Discussion Items





5 min
  • Call to order
  • Roll call
  • Agenda bashing
  • Organization updates

5 minWG Motions
Quorum required 

Motion to approve DRAFT 2018-03-21 Meeting notes

Moved by:



Motion to approve DRAFT 2018-02-21 Meeting Notes Consent Management Solutions WG

Moved by:



Motion to approve and adopt the Draft WG Charter (CMS)

Moved by: Julian Ranger

Seconded: Corné van Rooij

Result: Motion carried

Motion to elect Corné van Rooij as WG Chair and Jim Pasquale as WG Vice-Chair

Moved by: Julian Ranger

Seconded: Pushpalanka Jayawardhana

Result: Motion carried

5 min


40 minNotice and Consent flows - walkthroughCorné and Jim

Demonstration of iWelcome and digi.me product flows

  • Andrew requested to start recording the meeting to capture the demonstrations. No objections raised.
  • Jim Pasquale of digi.me presented the digi.me Consent Access flows
    • Jim noted that he is presenting beta software, so please do not capture and share any screen shots of the software
  • Corné presented the iWelcome demo
    • Showed the component diagram of the core engine
    • Showed an example customer journey
    • Q: This showed fine-grained consents - other apps show coarse-grained. Which is better? A: The trend is to start at coarse and move to fine as needed.
    • Q: Data minimization pushes towards fine-grained consent approach. A: In GDPR - the requirement is to be unambiguous, etc. which drives towards fine-grained. But it does not restrict how this is achieved. Only coarse-grained is not OK - but progressive granularity is OK.
    • Q: One-layer versus two-layer notice/consents approach (also seen in the ISO work) - needs further discussion
    • Q: Revocation - is there a global revocation feature or a 'suspend processing' feature? A: There is not really a Pause/Suspend - interesting idea... Jim notes that 'pause' and fine-grained consent control is available in digi.me
      • NOTE: Should allow the individual to obtain a copy of the Consent Receipts - to allow cross-domain sharing and parsing of consents and processing instructions/restrictions
    • Q: Is there a Processing Purposes schema? A: Yes - for next call
    • Ken Klingenstein would like to demonstrate their Privacy Manager
      • NOTE: Wants to dig into Purposes more
      • NOTE: Wants to compare Consent APIs too
    • Q: Where are the consent records stored in the infrastructure? A: In the iWelcome infrastructure, not the client's - an API-enabled central store.
      • Ken: in their enterprise version they can force a re-consent action for all users. Corné: can do this for Privacy policy or Terms of service (but this is not the type of consent mentioned in GDPR).
    • Q: How are modifications to consent handled - are records modified or new records created? A: iWelcome writes a new consent record for each consent interaction.

5 minUpcoming conferences and eventsAndrew

Events that Kantara will have an active role: https://kantarainitiative.org/events/

5 minAOBChairJoss: MyDate conference: interoperability track - last week of August - The WG to submit a proposal by 30 April


Next WG meeting Wednesday, April 4, 2018 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT

Action Items

StatusActionAssigned toDue Date

Look at iWelcome Processing Purposes schema on next callAndrew

Joss would like to talk about COEL standard and how it relates to Consent Receipts/ManagementJoss Langford

Ken would like to present their Privacy ManagerKen Klingenstein