LC telecon Minutes 2012-09-26

Minutes approved 10 October 2012

LC telecon 2012-09-26

Date and Time

  • Date: Wednesday, 26 September 2012
  • Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart)
  • Call-in toll-free number: 1-866-203-0920
  • Call-in number: 1-206-445-0056
    • Conference Code: 5423695925#
  • International Dial-In Numbers

Agenda

  1. Roll Call
  2. Approve
  3. Administration:
    1. Executive Director report
    2. Action Item Review
    3. Quarterly Reports
    4. Kantara F2F planning
  4. Discussion
    1. WG - Attributes In Motion - CHARTER
    2. Telco WG Draft Report - review and vote
    3. Kantara Initiative Budget 2013 (See section 7 of the  By-Laws)
    4. Trust Framework Subcommittee
    5. LC Approval of Group Reports
  5. WG Updates
  6. BoT Liaison Representative Update
  7. AOB
  8. Adjourn

Attendees

  • Colin Wallis
  • Colin Soutar
  • Pete Palmer
  • Ingo Friese
  • Bob Pinheiro
  • Eve Maler
  • Myisha Frazier-McElveen

Quorum is 6 of 10 as of 06 June 2012.

Staff:

  • Joni Brennan
  • Heather Flanagan (scribe)

Non-voting:

Apologies:

Minutes & Notes

  • Approve - holding to next admin meeting

Executive Director report

  • See Events
    • Save the Date sent out to the list re: Face to Face meeting; registration page in progress; working to converge some of the industry leaders regarding a Service Component approach (Experian, CA, Exostar, and others)
  • Long-term events planning
    • EIC
    • OECD-ITAC
    • Smart Cart Alliance
  • Trustees should be receiving the messaging framework draft from the PR firm, and that firm will be helping Kantara through that for the next few quarters
    • the Trustees has a marketing committee but it is not very active, so we may need space in the LC to work on this
    • a contract has not been signed with the PR firm yet, but they have done quite a bit of pre-work to make sure they understand the space
  • Press to come out tomorrow re: accreditation for Zygma
  • Bog work to pick up, and encouraging chairs to write blog posts on work being done in Kantara

 

Action Item Review

Action

Assigned To

Status

Description

Comments

20120425-02

Heather Flanagan

In Progress

collect and coordinate input on changes to make to the operating agreement

OP to go out for an e-ballot this week
20120530-04Patrick Curry, Colin Wallis, Joni Brennan, Ken DaggIn ProgressCome up with first pass of industry classification and Venn diagramDraft out to list for discussion; no feedback received; maybe amend this in to a slide that is sector specific; also having this conversation in the Trust Framework Work Group (NSTIC)
20120822-01Pete PalmerIn ProgressContact Bob Pinheiro re: Consumer Identity WG closureFurther discussion in the new Strategic LC meeting next week
20120912-01Joni BrennanCompletecorral those interested in the UK-IDAP efforts (at least Colin W, Patrick, Joni)Will need more than one meeting, before Oct 8
20120912-02Heather FlanaganCompleteset up a separate strategic focused LC meeting (no quorum required) 
20120912-03Heather FlanaganCompletesend a call out to the Members list looking for a host for the Kantara F2F 
20120912-04Joni BrennanCompleteSend out a personal Deloitte, Experian, KPMG, ISOC 

Discussion

  • OP - WG charter question
    • What happens when a WG wants to write a recommendation not identified in their charter?  Perhaps restrict to scope and mandate and not specific work item? But then what if they never produce anything other than calls and discussion? Perhaps then they should be moved to a DG?  We want to keep the overhead here of rules less heavy
    • as originally approved or amended by the WG and LC? remember this is just for Recommendations, not Reports
    • the e-ballot will be an LC recommendation and then this goes out to an all-member vote
  • Consumer ID WG
    • closed groups go to Archived Groups
    • no response came out of email to the group regarding closure
    • the discussion out of the Strategic LC call didn't focus on whether there should be a Consumer Group in Kantara; will try to have that discussion again at the next Strategy call

New Action Items

Action

Assigned To

Status

Description

Comments

20120926-01Heather Flanagan Contact WG chairs to solicit input from their groups re: Face-to-Face topics or intent to meetwill bring the info back to the Oct 10 LC call
20120926-02Joni Brennan Find convener for the proposed Attribute Management WGwill bring back to the LC

 

Quarterly Reports

See Quarterly Reports

  • several currently behind

Kantara F2F Planning

  • would like the Chairs to work with groups ASAP to determine which groups will want to meet at the F2F; it will likely be quite similar to the meeting held earlier this year
  • we will have 2 rooms: a plenary room and a BoT room; the plenary room should have space for the WG and people who have asked for meeting time, and the BoT room that would hold them for 1.5 days
  • will point the WG chairs to the August meeting agenda as a framework
  • notice on website of dates, general location, and reasoning will go up ASAP and will be fleshed out with more details as we have them

Discussion:

WG - Attributes In Motion - CHARTER

  • charter is up, 2 members support it (need 3 participants)
    • Colin Soutar also interested in this moving forward
  • the charter is therefore ready to go forward as soon as we have an official convener

 

TelCo Report

  • a technical report is nearly ready, REST/SOAP harmonization
  • what kind of marketing support would the TelCo group like to see around this report?  Is it enough for this to be a TelCo/Kantara report, or would it be better for it to have the full support of Kantara membership?

Kantara Initiative Budget 2013 (See section 7 of the  By-Laws)

  • ACTION: LC and Trustees to create small joint budget prep committee to discuss 2013 budget process.

  • Goal is to have a position by the F2F

    • Colin Soutar, Pete Palmer will participate as LC reps

Trust Framework Subcommittee

  • how do you manage trust framework offerings? this topic is mirroring itself in the IDESG world
  • the last time we discussed this as a larger group, the LC Trust Framework Sub-Committee pages were created
  • should this even be a segregated discussion given the majority of the LC is on it? do we need another layer of meetings and management?
    • general consensus is that this shouldn't be a separate group at this point
  • should we invite Dazza Greenwood here to discuss his ideas on this kind of effort? We don't want to create a competing roll
    • bring in for a topic to the next Strategy call; his ideas might be what's needed to help our group to start thinking about this and how Kantara might align
    • will this cause a problem with regards to IPR?  there is no IPR structure to the IDESG yet, nor is there any liaison policy yet; this should be considered taking a leadership role in liaison activity
  • consensus of the group is that there is no need for a subcommittee structure

LC Approval of Group Reports

From email to the LC by Heather Flanagan on 20 September 2012:

A question came up recently regarding the procedures for handling a Draft Report from the WG.  The current OP is not very clear on the subject (though it is reasonably clear on the handling of Draft Recommendations).  While there is some additional guidance on the wiki (LC Approval of Group Reports) , voted on in 2011 by the LC, that text conflicts with the OP in new and confusing ways.  In particular, it talks about sending a Report out for an All-Member Ballot, which doesn't happen with Reports.

So, I am proposing to change the text in the OP.

Current text:

3.9       Development of WG Reports
In addition to development of the Draft Recommendation(s) authorized in the Work Group Charter the WG may find it appropriate to develop additional Reports. These Reports shall meet any requirements established by the LC. 

Submission of a report to the LC requires a Simple Majority approval of the WG.



Proposed text:

3.9       Development of WG Reports
In addition to development of the Draft Recommendation(s) authorized in the Work Group Charter the WG may find it appropriate to develop additional Reports. These Reports shall meet any requirements established by the LC, specifically:

 

  • The Draft Report must be duly approved by a simple majority of the voting participants of the WG.
  • The Draft Report must meet basic document quality requirements for spelling, formatting, etc., and uses an approved Kantara Report template where possible.
  • The LC will work with the group to address any document quality or formatting issues and will vote to accept the Draft Report as a final Kantara Initiative Report. (see Section 2.6 Voting).

 

WG Updates

  • Note that AMDG is having an excellent turnout for an e-ballot to officially close the group
  • Note that the eGov WG is close to concluding its voting period on a revised charter; this will come to the LC for approval later this week

BoT Liason Report

  • covered in Exec Director report and Budget discussion

AOB

 

Next meetings

  • Date: Wednesday, 3 (Strategy) & 10 (Operational/Administrative) October 2012
  • Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart)
  • Call-in toll-free number: 1-866-203-0920
  • Call-in number: 1-206-445-0056
    • Conference Code: 5423695925#
  • International Dial-In Numbers